Friday, May 19, 2006

Can't They Just Hire a Hitman?

I was watching the news tonight when I saw this story about two elderly women befriending homeless men and then allegedly killing them for insurance money. What I found interesting was the way the news story portrayed this tragedy. Instead of focusing on the cruelty of this act, the story seems to ponder the idea that women of this age should not be involved in such dirty work:

Police are investigating two women in their 70s who they believe hatched a scheme to offer two homeless men shelter, then collect more than $2 million in insurance policies after they were killed in hit-and-run crashes.

Police also believe the women may have committed the accidents and were befriending other men to set up more insurance policies.

"Anyone would think that even though they're making financial gains for this, that they would leave the actual dirty work to someone else or hire someone," police Detective Dennis Kilcoyne said. "We're not so sure about that anymore."


What is the point of this remark by the detective--that these ladies should have had better things to do than actually dirty their hands with killing these men? Uhh--detective--did you ever stop to think that women so cruel that they would try to rip off homeless men might resort to anything? Really--shouldn't the point of the story be that potential killers can come in all shapes, sizes, ages, and genders? What a sad story.

26 Comments:

Blogger AmericanWoman said...

Yes, why could't they be like the nice little old ladies in Arsenic and Old Lace.

9:47 PM, May 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep in mind that the statement lacks context and that the reporter (Daisy Nguyen) had chosen to make it prominent, not the detective.

For instance, he may have been recounting the history of the investigation, its link to a similar crime from 1999, and explaining the investigators' original theory of the crimes. It appears that they'd originally pursued the case as one of insurance fraud.

Police traffic investigators discovered the alleged scam when they were looking into a fatal hit-and-run accident last fall. One investigator mentioned the case of two women who had taken out large life insurance policies on 50-year-old Kenneth McDavid when another recalled working on a similar case in 1999, in which 73-year-old Paul Vados was killed.

So when explaining why this wasn't a murder investigation from the onset, he may have said..
"Anyone would think that even though they're making financial gains for this, that they would leave the actual dirty work to someone else or hire someone," police Detective Dennis Kilcoyne said. "We're not so sure about that anymore."

In fairness 'Police traffic investigators', more likely a Vehicle Crimes Unit, regulary encounter insurance fraud and so may have pursued this avenue initially as a matter of standard protocols.

Notice the use of 'aspect' below, implying a multipart investigation.

"focusing our direction directly at Helen and Olga for the murder aspect of the investigation."
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1:14 AM, May 20, 2006  
Blogger jw said...

There are many factors working on a story like this.

All press/media people are most comfortable handling a male/female story gynocentrically. A woman centred (and favorable) story is the most comfortable and therefore easiest story to write. This is a major problem throughout the press/media. The problem results in serious errors in word and phrase use.

General misandry throughout society lessens the effect for male victim stories. It also causes a demand that any female offender must be mentally ill and "not violent." This problem is wide spread and commonly causes hard feelings in the families of male murder victims.

Put the two together and the story and its phrasing make sense.

We can see these factors clearly in the recent case of the woman who ripped off her husband's testicles. Follow the comments and letters to the editor. Some men are thankfull the press reported the case at all: They usually would not report such a case. Other men are angry at the sexist phrasing used in the coverage. Both sets of men are right.

We must address misandry and change gynocentricity to a humanity centred view.

4:14 AM, May 20, 2006  
Blogger Jeff said...

Victorian attitudes about women are firmly entrenched in both normal and PC American cultures. The police might be more traditionaly respectful of women, especially elderly women, while the PC media would judge them as having less moral agency for their actions due to their double-victim status (women, old).

2:03 PM, May 20, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of us judge a group's propensity for crime and types of crime on a probability scale. Since our authorities encounter few old ladies who are murderers, it's reasonable to initially look in a different fdirection. There is nothing wrong with that. I suspect they would do the same with old men for the same reasons.

Other groups have a higher incidence of murder. For example, the probability that a gang banger is a murderer is much higher. In a case with those guys, it's reasonable to look closer at them as murderers.

4:34 PM, May 20, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Female scumbags get away with a lot. Let's hope that changes.

8:41 PM, May 20, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, I wish I could find documentation for this, but I seem to recall a story on the TV (I think it may even have been ABC News) some twenty years ago of women meeting men in airport lounges or in bars in hotels near airports, inviting these men to their rooms for a drink, and then the men waking up to an empty hotel room having been thoroughly robbed. Each of the men related having been offered, and accepted, a drink from the women, which was obviously drugged. The name of the drug was discussed, but it's been so long that I can't remember it.

Does anyone else recall this? Or am I hallucinating?

Frank H

10:13 PM, May 21, 2006  
Anonymous brian said...

It's not a gender thing, it's an age thing.

We have no trouble believing in the 30-40 year old woman luring a man in and killing him.

But a "little old lady" being a cold-blooded and conniving killer is not something we're willing to countenance. "Grandma" isn't supposed to do those sorts of things.

1:07 AM, May 22, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Brian,

I think it is both gender and age that older women can get away with things almost in broad daylight that men or perhaps younger women cannot. It is also the way that they prey on people--not in the typical fashion but more behind the scenes with people who no one really cares about (i.e. the elderly, men, homeless).

The media has little frame of reference for these crimes--especially those that involve serial killers. Believe it or not--women make up 17% of serial killers but no one counts them because we do not perceive them as frightening characters like Jack the Ripper. There are some female killers who dress older to look like little old ladies so they can get away with more right under people's noses. Why? Because no one bothers to think they are guilty. Even when female predators are caught--people respond to them with curiousity rather than fear.

7:40 AM, May 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FrankH: Yes, and then they wake up in a bathtub full of ice and find that one of their kidneys is gone!!

3:02 PM, May 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

helen,

Let's all be on the lookout for those little old ladies lurking in the shadows behind their walkers. Your whining and complaining hit a new low today. Maybe tomorrow you can tell us about those dastardly paraplegics preying on men and boys? Thanks for alerting us to the threat. Lions, and tigers, and bears, Oh MY!!!

3:28 PM, May 22, 2006  
Blogger Darren Blacksmith said...

No, you don't understand. These poor women are 'victims'. No doubt a million dollar book deal and a sympathetic interview on Oprah awaits them.

4:40 PM, May 22, 2006  
Blogger Chris Key said...

Dr Helen Said: I think it is both gender and age that older women can get away with things almost in broad daylight that men or perhaps younger women cannot. It is also the way that they prey on people--not in the typical fashion but more behind the scenes with people who no one really cares about (i.e. the elderly, men, homeless).

The media has little frame of reference for these crimes--especially those that involve serial killers. Believe it or not--women make up 17% of serial killers but no one counts them because we do not perceive them as frightening characters like Jack the Ripper. There are some female killers who dress older to look like little old ladies so they can get away with more right under people's noses. Why? Because no one bothers to think they are guilty. Even when female predators are caught--people respond to them with curiousity rather than fear.


Chris Key Says: In my opinion, part of the problem is derived from the chivalrous nature of the sex-obsessed men from the 1960's, as they're the demographic who are intent on pampering women on a perpetual basis, and they're responsible for lauding and rewarding the women who commit horrific acts of malice against men.

The sex-maniacs from the 1960's were the promiscuous decadents who thought that the implementation of feminism would allow men to gain a perpetual amount of free-sex, so they supported it and allowed the feminazi-socialists to introduce a variety of draconian laws that subjugated men.

The sex-maniacs from the 1960's are the insane men who think their daughters are precious little angels, and they let them commit horrific acts with impunity and try to blame it on everyone else. They are intentionally rude and callous to any boy that their daughter brings home, and try to enforce him to pamper their 'little princesses' and expect him to be *grateful*.

It is that very attitude that is passed on down from fathers to daughters that causes women to think they're superior little princesses who have the right to commit any type of act that they want and gain impunity in the process.

Those type of women tend to develop into the neurotic feminazi's who wish to *magnetically attract* a husband who will pamper them in the manner that they have become accustomed to living due to their father's behaviour, and when such a person does not arrive on their doorsteps, they throw a tantrum, claim 'all men are pigs' and they talk about how they wish to castrate all men.

Those type of women are likely to watch the insane feminazi programs such as *Desperate Housewives* and *Oprah* and the feminazi gossip channels in order to hear about the malevolent shrews who marry men for their money and then file for divorce so they can obtain thousands of dollars per month in spousal support. These women literally develop an orgasm at the thought of a woman being able to use the anti-male law system to her advantage.

4:44 AM, May 23, 2006  
Blogger Chris Key said...

Anonymous Said: Let's all be on the lookout for those little old ladies lurking in the shadows behind their walkers. Your whining and complaining hit a new low today. Maybe tomorrow you can tell us about those dastardly paraplegics preying on men and boys? Thanks for alerting us to the threat. Lions, and tigers, and bears, Oh MY!!!

Chris Key Says: The vast majority of murderers are probably under the age of 50, however the total amount of perpetrators from each demographic should not be used to determine their punishment. If the elderly murderers are able to receive a larger amount of legal impunity than their younger counterparts, then it shows that the application of the law is contradictory in nature, and violates it's very purpose - to protect the innocent and punish the guilty.

I can understand that a woman would be angry with the discussion of bad female behaviour, just like a man would be angry with the discussion of bad male behaviour, however if you don't like the subject, then don't come to the site.

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