Neo-Neocon: The Milgram experiments revisited.
posted by Helen at 4:07 PM
Monday, December 29, 2008
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8 Comments:
I'm not at all surprised by this. It's just a shame that the Mr. Burger didn't cast aside those arbitrary ethical standards and go for the full gusto.
The question that I have is whether the average person is able to connect this kind of research and its implications to their views on politics. I'm sure the average person who's gone through this kind of study or who's thought about how they ought to react when confronted with the same situation might think twice when asked to torture someone or to do something else that would "shock" the mind. But what about when faced with the choice to support or oppose a political proposal (like universal health care) that violates other people's rights? Can the average person connect the dots?
bowenj10,
"what about when faced with the choice to support or oppose a political proposal..."
Good question. I think many people don't connect the dots and don't want to. If people are forced by the government to do something such as pay higher taxes at gunpoint or force others to get mandated insurance, it gives a certain set of people a way to control others without directly doing it themselves and feeling responsible. As long as they don't see what kinds of problems they might be causing or how this behavior affects others, they don't care.
Fortunately there are some of us who refuse to do as we're told simply because we don't want anyone else telling us what to do. I will not be forced to participate in a Nanny State regardless of where the money comes from and there is nothing they can do about it. Of course if Elle Macpherson asked me I'd do anything.
Tom, a fifth gereration Texan.
Political choices about health care programs etc have nothing whatsoever to do with what the experiment considered.
The willingness of people to torture a subject based on commands from an authority figure says a lot about how we make political and other public policy choices.
Taking a wider view of the experiement, it's taking the fallacy of 'appeal to authority' to the most extreme. Torturing someone because an authority figure authorized it isn't logically different than claiming the government must take over providing health care because doctors/economists/politicans/pick-your-expert say it's a good idea.
I wonder if many subjects who gave the simulated dangerous zaps figured the people who set up the experiment knew what they were doing and thus concluded that even the worst zaps couldn't really be that bad.
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