Wednesday, March 05, 2008

The Combat Mind-set vs. the Mind-Set of the New "Feminized Majority"

Every once in a while I go down to my basement library and re-read a book by gun expert Jeff Cooper (now deceased) just to keep myself in a self-defense mindset. This week I pulled from the shelf one of Cooper's best works, To Ride, Shoot Straight, And Speak The Truth. My favorite chapter in the book is one entitled, "The Combat Mind-Set" in which Cooper discusses a person's mental reaction to aggression.

Cooper starts out the chapter stating:

Man fights with his mind. His hands and his weapons are simply extensions of his will, and one of the fallacies of our era is the notion that equipment is the equivalent of force.


Cooper notes that of all of the graduates of his training program who have found themselves in mortal confrontations, "not one has said that his life was saved by his dexterity nor by his marksmanship, but rather by his 'mind-set.'"

Some useful bits of information that Cooper provides is that one must train himself into a state of mind in which the sudden awareness of peril does not surprise him. "His response should be not "Oh my God, I'm in a fight!" but rather, "I thought this might happen and I know what to do about it."

I often think how few people in our society would really know what to do if they were confronted with a mortal confrontation. Sadly, our mindset is now more like The New Feminized Majority in which soft power and discussions are slowly taking the place of the Combat Mind-set. Is this a good thing?

I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no, depending on the circumstances. I can't help but feel that both are important; yet each year, it seems that the values that Jeff Cooper talked about in his work are less and less relevant in our culture--those values of honor, duty and bravery. Those traits, I hope, will never go out of style--for our very freedom and life may depend on them.

Update: Grim has more thoughts on the combat mind-set.

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119 Comments:

Blogger iamnot said...

New reader checking in....

Soft power and discussions are all well and good when your enemies are willing to participate.
Otherwise, we need Mr. Cooper's values and will be truly lost one day without them.

4:48 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger lovemelikeareptile said...

Honor, duty, and bravery-- are all masculine virtues-- stereotypically and in reality.

4:51 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Kirk Parker said...

Cooper's brief volume Principles Of Personal Defense is also highly recommended.

5:21 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Soccer Dad said...

The "combat mindset" reminded me of the recent terror attack in Dimona, Israel. There was a hero, Kobi Mor, who prevented the terror from being any worse.
Mor arrived just after Cohen sounded the alarm that a second bomber was still alive and dangerous.

"When I drove into the town, everything seemed normal," Mor said. "It was only when I got to the area of the commercial center that people started pointing me to the scene of the attack."

A civilian approached him and told him that one of the terrorists was still alive. "I cocked my gun and ran toward the scene. I took cover, and observed that the terrorist was still moving, and that his hand was reaching toward the bomb belt," Mor said.

"I shot him, once, and a bomb squad officer also shot at him. I saw his hand quiver and I thought that we had killed him."

But Mor kept his eye on the would-be bomber, and "after about two minutes" was surprised to see the man's hand once again reaching toward the detonator. Mor dropped to one knee and opened fire again, this time killing the terrorist.

"I acted according to what I learned," Mor said. "I didn't feel anything at the time."

5:31 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger William said...

What ever happened to the mindset of Reagan defeating Communism without firing a shot?

Here in the era of cowboy diplomacy where hate for America and American aggression has grown, while our military has been weakened and our economy has suffered as a result, shouldn't we have learned something from this?

The idea that we'll all be safe in America at home with our guns while bombing others several thousands of miles away doesn't sound all that machismo to me. Ask the college republicans why they aren't going to Iraq.

Maybe the researchers are right, that conservatism can be explained psychologically as: a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism ...etc"

Yea right, so if you don't own a gun, you're a fem...

6:31 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Jeff said...

In every decadent era, the majority becomes feminized. In every effiminate era, people claim that a more cooperative society is at hand. It's at this time that all hell usually breaks loose.

Machiavelli railed against the effeminacy that caused (in his view) the fall of the northern Italian city-states to the French. The decadent, effeminate Wiemar period, with the more cooperative League of Nations, morphed into the second great war.

There is only one response to feminist Utopians: "Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world."

6:59 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger MaryMadigan said...

Yea right, so if you don't own a gun, you're a fem...

There's a lot of self-defeating pacifist behavior in our culture, but I don't think women deserve the blame. If, throughout history, women were incapable of defending themselves or their children, or of risking their lives for the next generation, the human race would have died out a long time ago.

Bumbleheaded pacifism isn't a femine quality - Gandhi, the Quakers, Jainists - men. They were mostly straight too. I don't see why this should have anything to do with 'fems'

7:31 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Oligonicella said...

"What ever happened to the mindset of Reagan defeating Communism without firing a shot?"

He didn't do it with rhetoric, chum. He did it by spending them to death on military hardware that outclassed them.

"Yea right, so if you don't own a gun, you're a fem..."

I have only owned a 4/10 shotgun for shooting garden varmints. I would hardly be classified as a fem, however. Straw on your part and you're perfectly aware of it.

7:47 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Helen said...

Lovemelikeareptile, Marymadigan,

I don't think that bravery, honor etc. are male traits alone--I think they are shared by both sexes. I think there are plenty of men who are pacifists and have self-defeating traits and plenty of women who are brave, honorable and who believe in self-defense under the proper circumstances (no, not the "feminist" view that you kick a man in the balls if he looks at you the wrong way-- but in a real life or death confrontation).

I used the quotes around the "Feminist Majority" to make clear that I do not think it is proper to call women as a whole pacifists/socialists. I just borrowed the name from the book that I linked to that took the view that these traits are mostly female.

iamnot,

Hi, welcome to my blog. Hope you find something of interest here!

8:11 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger El Duderino said...

A lutenist, an actual, self identified lutenist, has the temerity to dust of the lame old "Chicken Hawk" ad hominem argument and tries to flog it here. You can’t make this stuff up.
It’s as if William’s very existence is proof positive of the feminized majority. Sorry buddy, but a lutenist with facile anti gun, anti Republican arguments is pretty far down the masculinity totem pole, right above prison nancy boys and diversity professors. My advice; sprout a set, enlist and get a new hobby.

8:12 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Diggs said...

Oh yeah, a Lefty insinuating that Reagan was a pacifist. That's rich, especially since everything else he says that is bad about today, "cowboy diplomacy", "hate for America", "weakened economy" is the exact same stuff that Lefties like him were saying about Reagen. Back then.
Reagen is surely turning in his grave hearing that the Left has claimed his victory as proof of the success of talking your enemy to death.

10:40 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Mojoski said...

I don't think the combat mind-set will ever go away because as societies, and individuals for that matter, become weaker the chance of facing aggression increases. When that aggression occurs, the value of a combat mind-set suddenly comes into focus again for that society or individual who was becoming more weak and feminine.

As long as that initial aggression doesn't kill you as a nation (like 9-11 didn't destroy the US) you will see a resurgence in the value associated with the combat mind-set because of the renewed recognition of the danger in the world.

The increase in appreciation of the men and women in our armed forces, police forces and fire departments that we all saw after 9-11 is an example of the phenomena I'm describing.

I'm a good example personally as well. I had never owned firearms but always believe in my right to do so just in case. Then a woman down the street was murdered by a serial rapist and a CCW holder was responsible for stopping this predator from victimizing any others. What was my reaction? I'm now a CCW holder as well and I carry everywhere the law allows.

In summary, as we become weaker we become more vulnerable. Once someone decides to take advantage of our weakened state, we realize that being string is a better choice.

Hope this makes sense.

10:41 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Hucbald said...

Feminization of males is the issue, I think, and "passivization" (I love neologisms) of females (And both, really). I guess there really isn't any good gender-neutral terminology.

Point is, I think, that you must be ready to defend yourself and your country at a moment's notice.

"If you don't own a gun, you're a fem."

No, you're an idiot.

10:46 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger MaryMadigan said...

I don't think that bravery, honor etc. are male traits alone

Hi Helen - I didn't think that was what you were saying at all. However, the authors of the "New Feminized Majority" are another story.

10:52 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger George said...

Poor William! Who's got your b(*&s?

11:06 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Peter said...

From "Six Days, Seven Nights":

Robin Monroe: I am so scared.

Quinn Harris: If it makes you feel any better, I'm a little scared myself.

Robin Monroe: Uh, no. No, that does not make me feel better.

Quinn Harris: I thought that's what women wanted.

Robin Monroe: What?

Quinn Harris: Men who weren't afraid to cry, who were in touch with their feminine side.

Robin Monroe: No, not when they're being chased by pirates, they like 'em mean and armed!

11:08 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Michael said...

I can't believe I am the only one to mention what a singular woman Dr. Helen is for ability to go to the basement and pull out Jeff Cooper books. Bravo! I think the antidote to the feminization of our culture is, of course, more Cooper, and the "Helenization" of American women.

I do enjoy your work. Please keep it up. Best wishes with your health.

11:21 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Val said...

First I would like to thank Helen for posting on this subject because I have actually had this situation in combat, and I have thought about how ill prepared the average American is for these situations.

My first job was Predator Control on the family ranch in Montana. Predators included black bears, mountain lions, coyotes, and bobcats in large numbers.

The fine points of marksmanship were taught to me by my aunt, Dode, recognized as the best marksman in the county. Women in the West are known to be, on average, the best marksmen, but have difficulty with larger calibers because of weight.

In 1969 I found myself being handed an M-16 in Vietnam, and leading patrols along coastal jungle trails, and searching junks.

Here are some facts about the "combat mindset" (or hunting big predators):

1. The average American male, even in 1969, had little or no firearms training at home, only some military training.

2. 80% of American "green" servicemen will NOT fire back initially at a visible enemy firing on them. This problem has been reported in Iraq. Americans must be convinced to return fire.

3. The "combat-mindset" should go far beyond the material you quoted in self defense situations. Mentally it is important to work through the details ahead of time. All the things the "might happen". Mentally think through each set of possibilities. If someone comes through the door and a pistol or rifle is in another room (?); is it dark; do you turn on lights, etc. Think through every possibility you can imagine.

Mentally practice shooting back when someone is shooting at you. This is important. Mentally practice shooting after your hit.

You spend hours mentally going through "what do I do if...."

Practice, and practice by making some hamburger from scratch, kill a cow, go hunting, kill a deer, shoot rabbits. And practice safety in all these situations. When do you load, take the safety off, practice IDing the target, and taking aim? Always ID the target. What type of fire arm? Pistols are dangerous, and short range; a 20 gauge is ideal for women, and a pump action for safety.

4. If someone is trying to kill you, don't worry if you shit your pants, just keep going and don't shake.

My men, most of them, came home because I taught them the above, among many other things.

11:27 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Cake said...

Speaking of mindsets, I highly recommend a book called "Boyd".

It's about the USAF officer who invented the OODA loop, a technique which concentrates on out-thinking an opponent and knowing what he will do before he himself does.

Boyd has gone to his maker but, just like Patton, we could certainly use more men like him these days.

11:27 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Cake said...

Val,

I just read an article about how the USMC is now teaching their recruits hunting techniques in an effort to make them better at patiently locating and stalking 'prey'.

http://www.strategypage.com/default.asp

11:32 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger CS said...

Cooper's about effecting exchanges without violence. It's obviously a very watchful, empathetic business. The reserved affect is just to reduce noise:signal.

What could be more sensitive and caring?

But let me say, there's a little dissonance in the "combat mindset"/there-I-was comments. Ripples, stillness.

11:37 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger PierreLegrand said...

Should state that I have handled weapons since I was very young. Went hunting nearly every day behind my house in the forest. Did Judo so young that my gi was handmade by my grandmother. Taught the police department hand to hand and have in the course of my life. Put away 2 murderers as well as hunting down a stalker in my backyard with my .45. Mindset is what its all about...gaming situations before you are in them is the best way to win. And winning doesn't mean killing the other guy...it means getting away with you and your family alive. If you have to kill the other guy to make that happen then so be it.

But that is no light task...

Sanford Strong wrote an excellent book "Strong on Defense". I liked it because he started out by preaching what I believed...getting away alive and with all your family is job number one. If that means fighting your way through the bad guy then tough luck for him.

Set in your mind the fact that you may be shot...get past that to achieve your goal.

By and by the next day after sweeping my backyard for a stalker, who had stalked my wife unbeknownst to me for 6 years, I was glad that I merely flushed him from the yard into the police's hands, had I come upon him I would have most likely been forced to shoot. The next morning I was glad that I did not have to stare into his young sons eyes and explain why his sorry ass father wouldn't be coming hom.

11:50 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger a psychiatrist who learned from veterans said...

Cooper puts into words the primary thing I saw different about our combat veterans.

11:52 PM, March 05, 2008  
Blogger Kat said...

My grandfather once gave my father some sound advice that he passed on to me:

If you think there might be a fight, try to talk your way out of it.

If you can't talk your way out, walk away.

If you can't walk away and you think the fight is inevitable, throw the first punch and keep swinging until the guy is on the ground and can't get up.

12:03 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger William said...

Yes, we can see how macho aggression and cowboy diplomacy of the Bush administration has improved our international relations, now that Russia has resumed strategic bomber patrols for the first time since '92 and China and Russia have conducted their first joint military exercises. Now, China is focused on developing weapons in space. Knowing the Chinese manufacturing ability, one has to wonder how the US would do in an arms race against them, considering the toll our present war has taken on our economy and military... spending $333 million EVERY day chasing rag tag bombers in Iraq just to try to save face for Bush 5 yrs after "Mission Accomplished.".

But don't worry folks, you're safe at home with your guns.

Oh yea, if you're an artist or even appreciate art, forget it, you're definitely a fem. You'd better belly up to the next gun show and prove your manhood.

12:14 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger John Lynch said...

Those values live.

12:20 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger E. Nough said...

I don't recall the U.S. practicing "cowboy diplomacy" towards China or Russia. In fact, if anything, Bush Jr. has been rather big on the soft-power approach with both, what with "very very sorry" and looking into Putin's soul.

And imagine! -- with oil revenue surging and a "strong hand" leader bent on reliving USSR's glory days at its helm, Russia makes a pointless gesture of "strategic" bomber "patrols." Truly, Putin's election and strategy are all Bush's fault.

Then there's China, which has been building its military for the last 20 years, and got something of a boost in its satellite capabilities from Loral Corporation, tied, if memory serves, rather closely to the Clintons. Now that they are succeeding, it must again be all Bush's fault.

And clearly, no country had ever had ambitions of greater military power before the Bush Administration. Yes, sir, everyone was happy with consensus politics at the UN until Dubya showed up on the scene! It's unthinkable to the likes of William that countries other than America may act of their own volition to further their own interests. George W. Bush: the El Nino of international politics.

I guess when your "thinking" is that shallow, it leaves you plenty of time to build irrelevant straw men about "guns" being used to protect us from Russian bombers and Chinese space weapons.

1:13 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Belle de Ville said...

Does anyone have any statistics on the generation of 20 somethings that have grown up playing extremely violent video games. The whole point of these games it to fight and kill or be killed. Do these gamers have the same mindset in real life? Are these people only violent in the games and feminized and passive in their daily lives?
I thought that our society as a whole was developing more violent mindset after decades of exposure to violent movies, tv and games.

2:44 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger The Author said...

Belle de Ville:

Speaking as a 20-something who routinely plays violent (I don't know about 'extremely violent') video games, I can safely say that the people you refer to are not generally any more violent than the next person. I don't see this type of activity as being particularly desensitizing to real-world violence, as the 'violence' in games is always rather far from realistic. I certainly don't feel that my mindset is altered in any way. Even if I'm wrong, however, it doesn't seem entirely a bad thing to be 'desensitized', if it means the reduction of the tendency to panic when faced with a violent situation, which isn't very helpful in any case.

5:18 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Broadsword said...

William, William, William....why all the sneers and scorn? You are too intemperate with blame. If you disapprove of the combat mind set, then don't have an abortion. If you believe violence begets violence, then simply offer your throat unhesitatingly to the sharpened knife. I, on the other hand refuse to be a victim. Surely you can respect choice, yes? Cooper: "One bleeding heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that 'violence begets violence'. I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure--and in some cases I have--that any man who offers volence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy". Quoting another straight shooter, "Heh."

6:11 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger M. Simon said...

To be constantly alert to danger with an eye towards countering that danger is the engineering mindset.

Libs ought to thank their lucky stars that so many people live in fear for their sake. Just so they can pretend that there is nothing to fear.

6:17 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger George said...

several months ago, professor reynolds at instapundit had a post about an article in the knoxville metro pulse concerning a young lady from knoxville who exhibited honor, duty and bravery to the utmost-

"REMEMBERING FRANKIE HOUSLEY: "If she had just jumped out, and left her passengers to die, she might well still be among us, maybe better known than a heroine who dies young.""

here is the link to the article about

"The Bravest Woman in America
Anybody remember Frankie Housley?"
by Jack Neely


http://metropulse.com/articles/2008/18_04/secrethistory.html


here's to all (men and women) who show honor, duty and bravery not only in critical times, but in the mundane times.

6:24 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Harry said...

This whole point about the combat mindset was brought home to me the other day. I was walking down the street (outside the USA) when a gang of kids about fifteen years old tried to rob a couple of guys who were walking in front of me. I just watched the whole thing as if it were on TV, not reacting at all, even though it was happening in front of me less than three feet away. I was quite surprised by my inability to react. I am very much pro-action in these kinds of situations, since I believe that societies degenerate because people allow it to happen. It was like I was watching a TV cops show or something. I watched with a great deal of interest before I realized I could have and should have reacted.

People like william above are in the end extremely selfish, because they basically say to others, since I am not interested in protecting myself, I will allow others to die for me. They also are extremely stupid because they do not realize that there are people in this world who have no problem killing him.

6:59 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Billy Beck said...

William: pay attention...

http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/03/encounter-at-wal-mart.html

...and stop being a dope.

8:21 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger amr said...

I have always been a what if thinking type of person, which is probably why I gravitated towards being a test engineer in my youth. I almost always run scenarios through my mind when tooling through life, especially when driving. Some find my mild form of paranoid silly, but I have been in quite a few serious situations, including an underwater collision and a missile explosion when I was in submarines and four situations where I was at a high risk of drowning, and only once did I somewhat panic; that was when I was 61, not paying much attention when performing a mundane task and fell off my floating dock in early winter. It is amazing how cumbersome winter clothing is when full immersed in water.

I have always believed that as on the school playground many can not be reasoned with, so surviving a situation with no harm has to be quickly analyzed based on previously thought out scenarios and experience with physical action, such as a first strike, not totally ruled out. This methodology for daily living has allowed my family and me to avoid quite a few dangerous situations over these many years during our travels around this and foreign countries. Since I have always approached this analysis of situations as sort of game, there is no real mental stress involved, just looking silly and paranoid to others and that I can live with. So I would say I agree with Mr. Cooper.

8:45 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Andy Freeman said...

Poor William - "lie back and enjoy it" is always a hard sell.

8:55 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger K T Cat said...

Dr. Helen, I totally agree with this. When sparing in kung fu, I learned that aggression and forcefulness means almost everything. You can't be "feminized" and win a fight.

9:24 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Rich said...

An oldie but a goodie:

Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Here's a little test to help you decide:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you. You are carrying a Glock .40 cal, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.

What do you do?

Democrat's Answer

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor? Or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids?

Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?

Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? Should I call 9-1-1? Why is this street so deserted?

We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.

This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for few days and try to come to a consensus.


Republican's Answer

BANG! BANG!


Extra Credit: Southern Republican's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.....(sounds of reloading).

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click

Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silvertips or Federal Hydra-Shoks?"

9:49 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Raventress said...

Things I've learned from Dr. Helen:

All Men are Saints.

All Women are Evil Psycho bitches.

All Problems men have are solely the fault of women.

Women are irresponsible bitches who won't take responsibility for anything. Men, of course, are not responsible for any woman's problem in any way in any situation.

All men are poor abused woobies, constantly harrassed, humiliated and discrinated against. It is woman's responsibility to fight for male rights and salve their bruised egos. If men are treated unfairly it is not their responsibility to remedy things.

When women fight for women's rights they are evil psycho bitch feminazis who of course, are entirely in the wrong and robbing men of their rights.

Woman on male domestic violence is an enormous problem and the evil psycho bitch feminazi run legal system prevents the poor little woobies from getting justice. There is no male on female domestic violence, only EPBF's making false accusations and getting innocent men locked up. Oddly enough, none of these posters cite actual statistics, i.e. ER visits, deaths, court cases, to back up their claims. *No, I don't consider a 120 lb women slapping a 200 lb man as seriously as a 200 lb man punching a 120 lb woman to be equal.

Men should not have to pay child support in the following circumstances:
1. She filed for divorce. (Why was that the cynic wondered?)
2. She remarries.
3. She makes good money.
4. She won't let him see the kids. It never seems to occur to these guys to complain to the court system if that were the case.

None of men seem to understand that regardless of the woman's financial or marital situation they're still his kids and he's obligated.

9:58 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger DADvocate said...

I fully agree with the combat-mind set. One thing I've noticed over the years is that virtually every ex-Marine I meet has this attitude.

None of men seem to understand ...

Raventress - You'd be better off spending your time thinking about what you don't understand, which is a lot. Of course, you don't care so you won't perform any self examination but continue to complain about being called a feminazi or EPBF rather than do anything constructive.

10:13 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger john said...

Small thing but personal experience.

Wife and I were walking back to our car from having dinner out. Place was well lit and patrolled so I did not figure on any problems. But I detected footsteps other than our own behind us. I told my wife to keep walking and I slowed down my pace.

The only 'weapon' available were the keys. So I pulled them out and turned. Yep there he was. First thing out of his mouth was -- "Hey man don't get violent! I only wanted a $1." He took off 2 secs later.

Cooper's right. I guess I looked menacing and ready prevented a confrontation. But there is one thing that maybe is in Coopers book -- awareness. You can't be prepared if you are not aware. I am not talking paranoid delusions, just taking note of the sights and sounds around you. Your mind can quite readily discern the miscues from the normal patterns. Its like you notice the lack of birds chirping when you have been ignoring them all day. It takes little effort just a little observation.

10:20 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Henry said...

John writes about awareness, which brings to mind Col. Coopers mindset "color code".

It's worth considering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper_(colonel)#Combat_Mindset_-_The_Cooper_Color_Code

10:58 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger br549 said...

I agree about the 200 pound man vs. the 120 pound woman. Even if the woman was 200 pounds and the man was 120.

But as far as everything else you said, it's not Dr. Helen that says that stuff. It's men.

Judging by the anger and resentment in your statement above, raventress, I'm willing to bet you are one of the 200 pound women, or heavier.

11:08 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger John said...

BR - Your not right...bwahahahaha

It isn't being a feminist , but being ruled by emotions that is the culprit here. Left leaning people are ruled by emotions, which is thought of as a "feminine" trait.

If they based their beliefs on logic instead of emotions, then they could not reconcile being a pacifist while thinking it is ok to kill a fetus by half way birthing it, and sucking its brains out before it tskes its first breath.

Nor could they resolve thinking so highly of themselves (educated and refined) while rolling over and offering up their throat to an aggressor.

Yes, being ruled by emotions is the problem, and what we should be fighting against tooth and nail.

11:45 AM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Red River said...

http://warriortalk.com/

12:00 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Danny said...

William and raventresss seem to be exactly the type of people who are ruining our society.
Funny thingis this- if they hate the ideas put forthon this blog, I wonder why they keep coming back?

Personal experience- a couple of summers ago, I was attacked by a gang of 6 black teenagers in downtown Ann Arbor,as a left a jazz club. The onlytihng that prevented me from suffering a very severe beating, and a robbery, was the large folding knife I carry,and my willingness to take on the attackers.
maybe, I ought to have taken William's advice,and allowed myself to be beaten to death, since the attackers were oppressed black teenagers. NOT!!!!

12:38 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Charles Foster Kane said...

Ah yes, Danny. More anecdotal evidence please, but in the next story you make up please have a large gun and pithy quip right before you shoot them all.

I'm sure they were all arrested, arraigned, and I can find the details of their assault on you in the local paper and court records, right? Or is the liberal media hiding that from us?

12:48 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Bugs said...

Sometimes a willingness not to be robbed or assaulted is all it takes - no firearms or folding knives necessary. There are more cowards out there than there are desperate criminals. I have proven that to my own satisfaction but I'll forego the anecdote so as not to offend Mr. Kane.

Maybe part of the combat mind set is knowing the cowards from the desperate criminals. I'm not sure anything other than experience can teach anyone that skill.

12:58 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Danny said...

Charles Foster Kane- yup, please check the police records and court records, you will find them.
And yeah, next time, I will follow your advice, so please tell me what kind of a "pithy quip" I ought to use. Also, please advise me on what kind of a "large gun" I ought to equip myself with.

I am sorry I offended your delicate sensibilites, Charles Foster Kane. The next time I am attacked, I'll just remember your advice,and than just stand there in fear,and act totally passive, so that I can be beaten/shot/killed/robbed, and then with my dying breath, say a prayer of thanks to you, Mr Charles Foster Kane.

1:23 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Oldsmoblogger said...

"Yea right, so if you don't own a gun, you're a fem..."

"More anecdotal evidence please, but in the next story you make up please have a large gun and pithy quip right before you shoot them all."

Note also that these are sterling examples of exactly what Col. Cooper was talking about: confusing mindset and equipment.

1:36 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Oligonicella said...

William --

You just keep it up.

"Oh yea, if you're an artist or even appreciate art, forget it, you're definitely a fem."

I draw, paint, sculpt. Not a fem. Just where to you get those ideas? Not from men, so where?

M'thinks you project.

1:36 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Bugs said...

Pithy quip for Danny:

"Die, motherf***ers!"

A lot of times, acting like a maniac will scare off the naughty persons. Unless they have guns, that is...

1:40 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Oldsmoblogger said...

PS--Doctor, what shape is the binding on your copy of To Ride... in? I had a library copy, and I just about had to put a rubber band round it. Paladin Press perfect binding strikes again....

1:40 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Larry J said...

Raventress said...
Things I've learned from Dr. Helen:

All Men are Saints.

All Women are Evil Psycho bitches.

All Problems men have are solely the fault of women.


Then you've learned nothing and quite likely never will.

1:52 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger TheNewGuy said...

I fully agree with the combat-mind set. One thing I've noticed over the years is that virtually every ex-Marine I meet has this attitude

Oh, you're going to catch some flak for that... they're Former Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald is an Ex-Marine.

2:02 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Val said...

Raventress:

"None of the men seem to understand...."

You're focused on gender rather than social changes brought about by technology and wealth.

Within a couple of decades I believe you will have a response from men to being blamed for every conceivable perceived social problem and to the laws, regulations and policies of the New Feminized Majority.

You will find that men can be violent savages who can take away the gains made by women. You should be listening carefully to what the savages are saying.

Men have be working at this civilization thingy for 7000 years; women obtained the right to vote and participate only 90 years ago.

Buy yourself a magnum. Non-acculturated savages are being created in significant percentages right under your nose, you may need the magnum in the future.

On a similar note:

Belle de Ville:

"Does anyone have the statistics on the generation of 20 somethings that grow up playing extremely violent video games."

I've been interested in the same statistics. The best stats I can find judging from online gamer participation, Maxim readers, Spike TV, and similar sources is about 12 million 15-32 year olds gaming more than 5 hours per day.

The real question is how acculturated gamers and young men are in channeling aggressive and violent tendencies to positive social values, and learning social skills.

The DoD reports that the military services prefer recruits from rural areas because significant percentages of young males recruited from urban areas become violent; lack necessary social skills, and must be discharged before completing recruit training.

The increasing percentages of non-acculturated males (30% today?) in urban areas will play right into Raventress' rant.

2:23 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger The Duck said...

You might look at the book "On Combat", by Lt Col Dave Grossman.

Cooper had it right, it's just Grossman has some great updates!
Not just the Mindset before the battle, but during & after the battle.

2:32 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger a psychiatrist who learned from veterans said...

In relation to Val's first comment (in part): My first job was Predator Control on the family ranch in Montana. Predators included black bears, mountain lions, coyotes, and bobcats in large numbers.

I have wished that the large landowners around Ft. Hood in Texas, and similar bases around the country, would coordinate with the military to have small hunting parties of post basic training soldiers on their land as a partial preparation for combat. If you read About Face I think you get the impression that hunting is part of a desirable preparation for a soldier.

2:50 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Helen said...

Oldsmoblogger,

The binding on my book is actually great, it is the paperback I linked to. However, I have read similar complaints about the binding with Paladin Press books.

2:59 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Dhalgren said...

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3:23 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Dhalgren said...

Supporting the troops by blogging. Training for self-defense by reading a book in the basement. Are we missing anything?

3:24 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Danny said...

dhalgren- the blog you linked to is funny, in a rather pathetic sortof way. Kinda like Ms"Medea" benjamin, founder and Head honcho of Code Pink. When she was about to get her ass beaten a few days back while protesting the Marine Corps recruiting Station, what did she do? She squealed and screamed for the Marines to come and save her sorry, pathetic self.

3:49 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Larry J said...

To those who think personal protection is best left to "the professionals" (e.g. the police), this old quote comes to mind:

"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." - Winston Churchill

The police are rarely able to stop a crime in commission. Most of the time, they come to the scene after the fact. If personal safety is important to you, you should take responsibility for ensuring it yourself.

4:03 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Freder Frederson said...

Cooper's right. I guess I looked menacing and ready prevented a confrontation.

Sounds to me that you were the one who initiated the confrontation.

As for being ruled by emotion. You do realize that fear is an emotion?

4:20 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Carol Minjares said...

rich, I'm almost positive that Glock will hold more than 10 rounds...

4:44 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger serket said...

William: Here in the era of cowboy diplomacy where hate for America and American aggression has grown

And yet France, Germany and Canada have all recently elected pro-American leaders. If terrorists hate us it must be because we are not allowing them the control they desire.

El Duderino: What is the definition of 'lutenist' besides lute player?

Billy Beck: I enjoyed your story; glad you made it out safely.

6:05 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Helen said...

dhalgren,

What's with the obsession of the Sadly No guy with my blog? He frequently links here--not sure why but surely he has better things to do. All he's doing is raising my traffic (although lowering the discussion of the comment section--maybe that is his purpose?). You can tell him I appreciate the traffic but if I were him, I would give up the links, it only feeds my sitemeter.

6:19 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger Billy Beck said...

serket: That wasn't me. I'd seen it linked elsewhere the other day, and it seemed on-point here to me.

7:17 PM, March 06, 2008  
Blogger J. Peden said...

"As for being ruled by emotion. You do realize that fear is an emotion?"
freder

You do realize that having emotions is not the same as "being ruled" by emotions?

1:36 AM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger sfcmac said...

Well hell, I spent 32 years as a U.S. Soldier, deployed to war twice, and I own a personnal firearm; a .380 Browning semi-auto. I fight with my fists and I take no bullshit. A girly-girl, I ain't.

All I ask is that I not be made a scapegoat for somebody's idea of emasculated men. I like men, especially horizontal, tied to my bed...but that's another story.

10:03 AM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger Freder Frederson said...

You do realize that having emotions is not the same as "being ruled" by emotions?

John's little story about him assaulting a panhandler certainly indicates that he is ruled by his fear. Apparently he can't go to dinner in a safe, well-lit neighborhood without thinking that a bum who was asking for a dollar was out to commit bodily harm on him.

I stroll freely through the streets of major cities and frequent some pretty marginal neighborhoods (heck, I live in New Orleans). I keep an eye out but rarely fear for my safety. I have never been in a situation where I felt the need to arm myself. If a bum asks me for change or a buck, depending on my mood, I will ignore him, say "sorry man" or sometimes even reach into my pocket and give him my spare change.

I don't let fear rule my life as so many of you do. I realize suburban Knoxville, where Helen lives is a pretty scary place, but only because it is full of paranoid people who think they have to arm themselves to the teeth.

11:24 AM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger Bugs said...

If a bum asks me for change or a buck, depending on my mood, I will ignore him, say "sorry man" or sometimes even reach into my pocket and give him my spare change.

How sweet! Freder is obviously a superior type of human being. We should all aspire to be exactly like him.

Me, I can't stand beggars (or anybody who's "different") so I'd probably just shoot the bastard & put him out of his misery.

11:53 AM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger Cham said...

It kind of makes you wonder who to fear? The bum asking for a buck or the guy with the SUV in the mall parking lot.

12:06 PM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger Val said...

Cham:

"It kind of makes you wonder who to fear."

I asked my Grandmother when I was about 10 "Grandma, why do you wear such a big hatpin?" She said, "defense."

A young paralegal I employed was sexually attacked in a shopping mall parking lot in Fremont, CA. She fought back and cleverly escaped. She came in the next morning to work (which surprised me) and I questioned her about the facts. It was obvious she had thought through beforehand exactly what she would do. And she did it!

The phrase "combat mindset" is remote from everyday life. The phrase "prepared for a personal assault" might be more appropriate.

The "before" mental training and preparation, the "during", instantly carrying out mental planning, and "after" an assault mental training, will put you into a much safer world without much to fear.

It is difficult for me to imagine my Grandmother fearing much of anything. She also kept a Civil War Colt .55 cal. in her dresser.

2:03 PM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger Danny said...

Looks likethis post by Helen has really offended the "fem types", and it is amusingto see them try to tell us how brave theyare, ad they dontn need no combat-mindset!!!!
freder- tell your story about being totally safe in New Orleans to my late friend, the film-maker Helen Hill. She was kileld by an intruder in her home in new Orleans,and now her 2 yr old boy is an orphan. She, lik e you, used to think that planning forone's safety was "paranoia". Now she is dead and her little one is motherless.

2:53 PM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger Oligonicella said...

freder --

Do you enjoy lying about someone?

"John's little story about him assaulting a panhandler ..."

That's a lie. Purposeful, since you had as much time to read his comment as needed to understand it. No assault. But then, you can't paint him as a bad guy if he simply turns around and looks prepared to defend himself (perhaps unneeded, but not illegal or immoral).

"I don't let fear rule my life as so many of you do. I realize suburban Knoxville, where Helen lives is a pretty scary place, but only because it is full of paranoid people who think they have to arm themselves to the teeth."

Interesting how so many here are telling you they don't, yet you simply regurgitate. Note the hyperbole you use. We do.

6:01 PM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger M. Simon said...

Only the good die young.

You need to keep your reptile brain in good working oder. Others do and they are not as nice as you.

9:47 PM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger El Duderino said...

Serket,
I'm not exactly sure, never having seen a specimen in the flesh, but if pressed I’d guess that a lutenist is a sub variety of a hoplophobe, convinced of his own superiority, he disdains those who shield him while he sleeps and dithers away his waking hours with medieval stringed instruments and other effete pursuits

11:10 PM, March 07, 2008  
Blogger J. Peden said...

John's little story about him assaulting a panhandler certainly indicates that he is ruled by his fear.
freder

John did not "assault" a panhandler, and certainly not anymore than the panhandler assaulted John, and his s.o., btw.

Your problem, freder, is that you are not ruled by reason.

1:41 AM, March 08, 2008  
Blogger Danny said...

Freder- you are an effete hoplophobe. As is William , the lute player.
Didnt 'ole Sigmund Freud say some tihng tothe effect that people who exhibit an irratoinal fear of weapons suffer from emotional and sexual retardation?

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