Tuesday, June 13, 2006

Custody Problems

Well, even Alec Baldwin can't use his celebrity to get a fair shake with the court system in California. He is being "forced" to see a psychologist to determine if he has emotional problems--I wonder if Ms. Basinger is being "forced" to see a shrink also? I sure hope so, given her prior psychological problems.

31 Comments:

Blogger pst314 said...

Didn't Alec Baldwin give a speech where he raged that Republicans should be dragged from their homes and lynched? That sounds like a sign of an unbalanced mind.

4:24 PM, June 13, 2006  
Anonymous Teresa said...

I think they're both unbalanced. That poor child would likely be better off with just about anyone else except those two.

Plus - I have always wondered how in the world a psychologist can tell if a person is fit to be a parent by one or two visits. If the person in question is even half way intelligent, isn't it possible to "game" the system?

I have no idea how fitness is determined, but the short periods of time they use to make an evaluation, seem to me to be far to easy to circumvent. I could be wrong about this.

4:35 PM, June 13, 2006  
Blogger John Doe said...

I was involved in a fairly lengthy conversation the other day in which a young lady repeatedly said that if some man did some thing that she didn't approve of, she'd kick him in the balls. Much as I thought she had a gratuitously violent streak in her language, I don't think she was mentally deranged (and I'd be surprised if she'd ever kicked anyone in the balls).

There is a big difference between hyperbolic language and mental imbalance.

Moreover: hands up who thinks anything we hear in the news about Hollywood couples lands within the same continent as the truth. Eh...?

4:37 PM, June 13, 2006  
Anonymous serket said...

Good idea, Alec could surely use a psychologist.

10:07 PM, June 13, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suspect that someone who's relatively intelligent and has a basic understanding of psychology can game a single-visit diagnosis. The brother of a friend of mine, who was a serial criminal and prone to violence, seemed to be expert at convincing counselors and psychologists that he was harmless. He's in prison now, but only because he was found with a gun in his car, which violated his probation.

11:27 PM, June 13, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having gone through hell called the family court system, I can tell in all honesty and with a good conscience that the system is broken. I was ordered to go through the same process during the custody battle. Everything is slanted or stacked against you as a father. Anyway, I did everything I can to spend more time with my daughter, paid child support dutifully and sacrificed everything I had for her sake. Now my daughter is in college and realizes that I was the one who really cared for her and she follows my advice and example for academic pursuit. I could have given her up during and after the custody battle but decided that I will just roll with the blows and do everything for her future.

2:15 AM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger jw said...

My first reaction is to say "No Basinger will not see a psych. The only purpose of the Family Court psych is to find a way to make the father seem evil." That is the emotional reaction to the thing.

The facts are a bit tougher. Some family court psych are indeed there with the express purpose of making the father seem evil, there can be no doubt of that. Some, on the other hand, are doing everything in their power to be as fair as is possible. Some judges try to be fair; others are trying to hurt the father, a very few are trying to hurt the mother. It is a complex and nasty system as it currently exists.

The system needs an overhaul.

4:57 AM, June 14, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Him - Narcissist.

Her - Borderline.

There, and that did not EVEN take two visits.

9:58 AM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

anonymous 9:58,

And you didn't even have to charge hundreds (or thousands) of dollars for the diagnoses. Unfortunately, there are plenty of kids like their child who live with pathological parents everyday--some even survive to write memoirs about it.

12:03 PM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger Wickedpinto said...

Theres a phrase about "birds.." or something or other.

The state needs to get the hell out of the medical practice biz.

Insanity plea? Get rid of it.
"special education" for "disturbed children" (I knew a lot of them, they weren't disturbed, they were JERKS! rather smart jerks in most cases) Get rid of it.

All of the stygma that the State is willing to assuage in adulthood, is creating greater levels of trauma in it's execution.

2:25 PM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger Eric said...

I suppose it could have happened to a nicer guy.

3:26 PM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger Dr. Melissa said...

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4:05 PM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger Wickedpinto said...

Eric? I think that is unfair. While Alec has openly stated is insane opinions of bush, he has also backed up on them. That is natural for people who's entire life consists of editing.

Alec, while a lunatic, is not the most vile opponents of bush, at least in terms of statements he continues to support.

He's like a child who says what he thinks, then looks to his mother off camera when she hisses, or gasps and says "is that wrong mommy?" he isn't a complete lunatic, and He is a PHE-freakin-nominal actor. (thats not an excuse, but it's the truth) I think alec has an opinion, without being able to internaly edit his opinions.

That doesn't make him crazy, that makes him someone who isn't used to having a voice of his own, or rather, not being held accoutable for his personal voice, until it's too late.

Kim hasn't said a damn thing, how do we know that she isn't taking all of the basic ignorance of self that Alec shares with the public out now, on her children?

HORRIBLE HORRIBLE english on my part.

5:47 PM, June 14, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone needs to shoot both retard parents, Alec and Kim, and then put the kids in a normal home with normal, not f***ed-up Hollywood types. That is the only way in which Alec"s and Kim" kids will have a normal upbringing. harsh? Not unjustified if one takes a cool, hard look at the behavior of these 2 Hollywood yo-yos.

5:54 PM, June 14, 2006  
Anonymous Teresa said...

While I think Baldwin's political views are completely wacky. That doesn't make him a bad father. The fact that they are so publicly brawling about their daughter - that makes me think they're both nuts.

In general when it's a marriage - it takes two to make trouble. As Dr. Helen's pod cast with a divorce lawyer plainly conveyed. It's easy to hear one news story and think either he or she is the culprit - as if there is only one person in the marriage.

The only one really getting bashed through all this is the child. She's the one being tugged apart. And the fact that neither of them seems to want to make it private (with a court order) means they regard this as an open fight for all to see.

Most people work hard to keep the family problems within the family - not displaying them for all the world to see. In just my own opinion - when couples choose to do this - they both have big problems.

5:57 PM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger submandave said...

Here's a question. Absent clear cause no judge can randomly demand a married father to be psychologically evaluated for fitness to parent, so why is it an almost routine event in divorce? It makes no sense to me to say that since the parents are splitting it is now fair to intrude into personal areas without cause. Or, if it really is a necessary part of doing what is best for the child then why do we not extend the same care and concern to the children of married parents?

Sure, Baldwin is a goofball, but I can't remember anything that makes me stand up and say "that man is a danger to children."

6:38 PM, June 14, 2006  
Blogger Mercurior said...

ah these courts sometimes beleive just being a MAN is a danger to the child..

4:57 AM, June 15, 2006  
Blogger Wickedpinto said...

submandave said...
Here's a question. Absent clear cause no judge can randomly demand a married father to be psychologically evaluated for fitness to parent, so why is it an almost routine event in divorce?


Jim Ryan.

Men bad, women good, welfare of the children? Insignificant.

4:57 AM, June 17, 2006  
Blogger Wickedpinto said...

Hows that for timing Mercurio?

The lunatic ditch digger clicks at the same time as you.

4:58 AM, June 17, 2006  
Blogger John Doe said...

'Seems that the press have shown their usual honest and unbiased journalistic ethics with regard to this case and misreported the whole thing.

"The story should have said Baldwin asked for an evaluation as part of his request to change the conditions of the child custody order, and that a judge said an evaluator also needs to spend time with his ex-wife and child as part of the process."

It reads a little differently to the original, doesn't it? Whole thing here.

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