Saturday, October 15, 2005

Where Have all the Men Gone?

There is a severe shortage in the US of male teachers--just 21% of teachers are male. The top three reasons men no longer go into teaching? The low pay, teaching viewed as "women's work," and fear of being charged with child abuse. Some men report not being able to get a job interview because people think there is something wrong with men who want to work with children. Thanks alot, Oprah. The male shortage is a big loss for our children--the exposure to different teaching styles is important for kids to be exposed to at an early age. What effect is the male teaching shortage having on our children? Not a good one, I'm afraid. Young men no longer want to go to college, perhaps because no male teachers equates a feeling on their part that education is not important to men. What do you think?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a nephew (in-law) who's a grade school teacher. His class liked him so much that they showed up for his wedding. I've also Caught myself thinking, upon seeing one of his new teaching ideas, that I wished that I'd had a teacher like him.

2:27 AM, October 16, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....90% of our schools are 'public' schools -- stifling government bureaucracies enmeshed in silly rules and an oppressive social culture. Their primary purpose is social-control of American children.

Passive & submissive personalities better tolerate such a work environment... while more assertive & independent personalities squirm under such daily pressure.

American 'women' generally are culturally prone to the passive/submissive role ... while American 'men' are not.

Thus, women are a much better match to the annoying bureaucratic social culture of government schools.

Real men go elsewhere.

Case closed.

10:01 AM, October 19, 2005  
Blogger OreamnosAmericanus said...

I'm a male and I was a high school teacher for a couple of years right after college and recently I worked in middle schools while getting my psychotherapy licence. I wouldn't be a teacher no matter how much you paid me.

That being said, and I realize the rather non sequitur quality of my next comment --I just got up, haven't had my coffee-- but it is a particular shame that black males are practically non-existent in American schools, especially in the urban public schools where black kids either languish or act out. It says volumes about the social pathologies involved.

11:07 AM, October 19, 2005  
Blogger Marc J. said...

Hmm... interesting subject.

I have to say that I definatly agree with allicent. I could use a scholorship! ;)

But seriously, I am a male. I want to teach History. I want to teach in a High School. Why? Well, mostly because I love History, but also because I think teaching will be very challenging and interesting. Hopefully, I can do as good a job as my history teachers did.

(Slightly of topic, but in my expirence as a student, I can't think of a single female history teacher. I wonderr why that is?)

Oh, and here's a blog of a male middle school teacher.

To the second anonymous's comment: How will that ever change if some "real men" don't get in there and change it?

6:56 PM, October 19, 2005  
Blogger Marc J. said...

Sorry, bad link.

Fixed now.

6:58 PM, October 19, 2005  
Blogger Marc J. said...

Uh, how about now?

(D@mn "http://"!)

7:00 PM, October 19, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a male nurse I have to point out the muffling effect the 'Female social structure' has on keeping men out of 'traditionally female jobs' If you look at Nursing as an example, there are more Male nurses in the Military than in civilian life (%5 in civilian as opposed to about 30- 35% in the military) The only real difference in those two sectors is the 'Social structure' I am not sure how to rectify this however. What I do know, as a father of four sons, is that the current culture and education viewpoint does in fact hamper the education of males. I have had aprofesional educator (A male middle school teacher of 16 years) wonder why we can teach basic concepts faster and with greater success in Boy Scouting than in school. I think the question answers itself. Strong male role models demonstration and sharing a male oriented way of seeing and issue. THAT is why we NEED men in School.-Paul Skurnick

7:42 AM, October 20, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Schools are a hostile environment for males, including male students, male teachers, and student's fathers. This is true from Kindergarden through High School, and especially in colleges and universities. Our culture in general is approaching that of the Nazis - just nix the swastikas, change concentration camps to prisons, and replace Jew with male. Its not just Oprah doing this, its feminists, Hollywood, Madison Avenue, the media, and the politicians and judges who are afraid to be politically incorrect and take a stand for equality. No matter what a woman does she is a victim, no matter what a man does he is a perpetrator. Women have rights, men have responsibilities. Its a big part of why Muslim countries don't want western culture.

9:35 AM, October 20, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I come from an abusive relationship. Of course, no one believed my wife was the abuser. Even though she has now been in prison twice (since our divorce) for assault.

However, when I called the police on her, I was arrested and charged with DV. Did you know that if you are found guilty of DV then you are no longer safe to be around kids? So much for my dream of being a male teacher in primary school.

Heck, I had to stop my volunteer work with at-risk teens because I was a possible sex offender - all because my ex-wife lied to the police and they believed her over me (despite the physical evidence). I'll probably never teach kids.

Yet another in a series of men who won't teach.

12:24 PM, October 20, 2005  
Blogger Jeff with one 'f' said...

I was a Cub Scout and Boy Scout all the way through until I turned 18. It was one of the most positive influences on my life growing up; god knows how I would have turned out without the values and strengths that I learned in Scouting.

Needless to say, as a single adult male, I feel that I can't give back to the Boy Scouts until I have a son of my own to be involved with. I have two female friends who are active in Girl Scouting; they're not mothers and it never occurred to them not to volunteer.

4:08 PM, October 20, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Where have all the men gone? Oprah didn't want them.

5:19 PM, October 20, 2005  
Blogger Helen said...

To anonymous:

No, Oprah does not want them, but to give her credit, men are not typically home watching tv so how are she and Dr. Phil supposed to make a living except by pandering to women?

6:07 PM, October 20, 2005  
Blogger Earth Girl said...

My husband, mid 40s, is getting an elem ed degree, something he would not have dreamed of doing as a young man. Maturity, life experience, his unthreatened masculinity and high GPA have administrators clamboring for him even with two years of schooling left...and the fact that they get all this for abysmal entry level wages.

Of course, "stifling government bureaucracies enmeshed in silly rules and an oppressive social culture" is a concern. He is definitely not "passive/submissive," but he has the experience and wisdom to know when to ignore it and when to fight back so that he can focus on the main thing - teaching children.

We are lucky to be a financial position that permits his mid-life change of career. More men would pursue teaching if its true societal value was reflected in the pay.

12:51 PM, October 24, 2005  
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