Friday, December 22, 2006

Sun Kissed


After getting suggestions from readers on how to cope with Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD), I am at a beach house in the Florida Keys for Christmas--here is a picture I took, I was sitting in the beach chair you see but I decided to get some exercise and took a few pictures. Come to think of it, it was probably medically necessary to come to this beautiful island to treat my winter blues, I wonder if insurance will pay. (Just kidding, of course). I have never been to the beach at Christmas and it has been fun so far. The seafood house we just ate at had lobster and fish lights up for Christmas that were very festive and a lot of people were at the local stores getting gifts wrapped. Still, it is hard to imagine Christmas around the corner in 80 degree weather.

I have a bunch of reading that I took with me, including a book sent to me by the Penguin group entitled Sun Kissed, a romance novel they are pitching to women bloggers. You can only imagine how enthusiastic I am to read such a book, given my love for this particular genre. "She asked for nothing...but he would give her everything" reads the inside cover. Apparently, in this romance novel, there is a woman, a horse, an abusive ex-husband and a rugged, yet sensitive Natural man who saves the day. Yep, my kind of reading. My sister-in-law loves horses, and enjoys romance novels so I will pass it on to her. Anyway, back to the sun and ocean. I hope others are having a lovely holiday weekend. I'll be back later!

84 Comments:

Anonymous Mr Lawson said...

If you and the good Professor would like some entertainment Sun night, head over to Marathon and find your way to Dockside Marina. They have a jam every Sun Night on the dock overlooking Bootkey Harbor.
/use to live there

1:28 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous SWLiP said...

The weather's been unusually warm and wet for this time of year. I've had to run the a/c here in Miami.

Hope you have a wonderful, warm Christmas!

2:08 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What makes you think anyone gives a fuck what you're doing for christmas? Bragging, is all I can make of it.

2:09 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Rudolph said...

Me thinks anonymous is getting coal!

2:18 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Eric Back said...

I stumbled on your site as a result of installing an RSS reader in Firefox. I thank you for the insightful discussion in the podcast on Martha Stewart's prosecution. I have some food for thought as I start my next MBA course on the "ethical, legal and regulatory" environment. Perhaps we are all criminals!

2:19 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Salamantis said...

Anonymous deserves coal AND switches!

2:24 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Steve Skubinna said...

Huh, one of the "R" haters came here to dump, but missed the post he was aiming for. Hey, anon, why aren't you at Malkin's site, calling her b*tch or c*nt or one of the other fine terms of appreciation you paragons of tolerance and diversity use for uppity chattels who wander off the reservation?

2:25 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger SwampWoman said...

Welcome to Florida! What a lovely surprise. Glad we're able to share our beaches and warm weather with you.

2:33 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I made a point of following the link to the photos and I am glad I did. Thanks for sharing.

2:33 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Different Anonymous, without the F Word said...

Our very best Christmas was spent at a beach in Penang, Malaysia, and Singapore. I always figured I'd prefer a root canal to a beach holiday, but was I ever wrong! I hope your Christmas there is simply terrific!

2:39 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger AJ Lynch said...

Thanks for sharing- I am in Philly and am thinking of taking an Xmas trip next year. Your post makes it more likely I take the trip.

And Anonymous #1 is an idiot- he vents his hatred at people like you and he does not even know you. One should only hate people they know very very well especially this time of year :}.

2:41 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Thanks to all so far who have welcomed us to Florida! The Keys and Miami are beautiful--I haven't been to the Keys since I was a teenager--what a wonderful place.

Anonymous 2:09:

Bragging huh--see that boat in the background--paid for by those blogads on the right brought in by all the traffic from my new "boyfriends"--Alicublog and Glenn Greenwald. Keep it up boys, I'd like to buy some real estate down here!

2:42 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger DRJ said...

Best wishes and all that.

Now that I've gotten the nice words out of the way, I'll say it: You lucky people, I'm jealous. What I wouldn't give for a beach holiday at Christmas. I bet even Santa ends up at the beach after his work is done.

2:43 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger DRJ said...

PS - I like your boat, too. Where's Glen's?

2:44 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Mercurior said...

my fiance has the opposite, sitting in the sun depresses her, so likes the cold and wet and miserable weather..

its a reverse form of SAD. , but then again sun in winter seems wrong to me ;-)..

3:14 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Glenn is here to, enjoying the boat!

3:15 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gosh, I'd love to be down there with y'all but unfortunately I don't have a permanent and cushy state job where I get to play Robot-man and read tough guy Randian books from various vacation spots (on the tax payer's dime of course).

3:16 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Anonymous 3:16:


I wish what you said was true! but like I said above, this trip was funded by my blogads funded in part by previous traffic from Glenn Greenwald and Alicublog so if you want such a deal--just start your own blog and maybe they'll link to you!

3:26 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger SpecialOpsDude said...

I'm stationed at MacDill AFB, in Tampa. Talk about lucky! When I get back from the Middle East, I'm taking my girlfriend to Key West for a January Christmas.

3:36 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Specialopsdude,

I hope you have a wonderful time in Jan. but in the meantime, stay safe.

3:43 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger SwampWoman said...

Grin. How dare you work and be creative in order to earn money to go on vacation? There's just something so American and capitalist about that!

3:45 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's hoping the trolls are extra active so y'all can afford Barbados or other exotic destinations next year :-)

3:58 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry Helen I forgot that Glenn's legacy granted tenured position at the state funded U of Tennessee is actually a cover because he's too embarrassed to talk about his 10 successful startups and all his other uber-capitalist street cred.

3:59 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous "Eric Blair" said...

Dear Dr. Helen:

I am glad that you and your family are having a good time.

If you are being truthful about increased traffic from Trolls and Anonymice paying in part for your vacation---why that is the coolest thing I have heard in a long while. They get to say empty headed insulting things...and you profit from the fact that they (i) lack self control and (ii) have nothing better to do than act like snotty teenagers.

THERE is your next podcast: how to profit from the bad manners of others!

Best wishes to you and yours...

4:06 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Anonymous 3:58:

Yes, Barbados sounds nice for next year--I see above that troll 3:59 has already made the first contribution towards that fund. Thanks!

Eric Blair,

Yes, I really am serious--my ad revenues from recent increases in traffic because of lefty blogs pretty much paid for the boat rental and my share of the beach house. If the trolls continue, who knows what other capitalistic adventures I could afford?

4:23 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Jim C. said...

Dr. Helen, Merry Christmas to you and Insty.

If your SAD is still a problem after your trip, the products at this site I came across might be worth a look: http://www.litebook.com/catalogusa/

Disclaimers: I don't work for them, I've never used any of those products, I have no idea if they work or not, I only know what's on that page. But they're less expensive than a full light cabinet.

Anonymous 2:09 PM said, "What makes you think anyone gives a fuck what you're doing for christmas? Bragging, is all I can make of it."

Poisonous-snake-green envy at Christmas. Tsk, tsk.

4:39 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger tomcal said...

When I was 11, my dad was looking for oil offshore of Jamaica for a major oil company. He was struck there over the holidays and decided to bring the family (my mom, my two sisters, and me) there to be with him. We stayed in a rented house in Montego Bay, which at the time was just a fishing village. It was the most memorable and fun Christmas I can remember.

Anyway, when we got back it turned out that the oil company didn't pay for the family's travel expenses, almost $7,000, even though my dad's boss had told him that it would. That was in December 1969 when airfare was still truly expensive and $7,000 a whole helluva' lot of money. We lived on hamburger and canned beans for most of 1970, and I learned by my father's griping that it was unwise to rely on verbal agreements.

But as I said, it was our best Christmas ever, and although it never would have happened had my dad not been "tricked", in hindsight it was worth every penny.

So, for everyone out there with kids who thinks they can't afford a really special family vacation, do it anyway, at least once during their childhood. They will never forget it.

4:40 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the "anonymous troll" from 3:16 and 3:59 wishing Helen, her family and everyone else a Merry Christmas and happy New Years. And thanks for the advice though honestly if I could generate any extra revenue I would rather donate it to Soldiers Angels or some such organization instead of spending it on myself.

4:58 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Purple Avenger said...

I grew up in northern NY. I still get SAD down here in Palm Beach.

Not as bad a it was in Potsdam when I was an undergrad though.

I keep vampire hours when I'm in an extended focused technical work mode. I just can't work effectively in the middle of the day unless it something physical like construction. My best technical magic has always been created in the middle of the night between 10:pm and 4:00am

5:39 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Eric Scheie said...

Merry Christmas!

5:44 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

Anonymous 4:58:

I don't presume to speak for Dr. Helen, but I know her fairly well.

I'll bet that she gives more to charity than you do.

Sure, I could be wrong, but people who fling the word "fuck" around generally aren't the nicest and best of people. Or perhaps you aren't the Anonymous in question. Even so, you were certainly being rude and insulting.

Then again, we have already learned that right wing individuals indeed give more to charity than our leftist friends.

You are still feeling the burn that your insults and childish behavior turn into money for Dr. Helen.

I think it is wonderful that your negative behavior turns into something positive for your target.

5:52 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure, I could be wrong, but people who fling the word "fuck" around generally aren't the nicest and best of people.

I'm not the person who used the word earlier, but this is nonsense. Sometimes people have good reasons to use strong language.

6:39 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Purple Avenger said...

people who fling the word "fuck" around generally aren't the nicest and best of people.

Depends on the context of use. Its quite common at Ace's. They're mostly good people. Only a few are known serial killers...

6:40 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

First, I don't know how Dr. Helen feels about profanity on her blog. Maybe she doesn't mind.

I find it distasteful, and a sign of sloppy and immature thinking. You are certainly free to disagree.

Do you go to your mother's house and say "fuck"? How about your boss' home? What about your girlfriend's parents' house?

It's not exactly rocket science that you moderate your own language to match the environment.

This is Dr. Helen's blog. It is like her home.

And you actually think YOU get to set the rules in HER house? She doesn't have to allow comments at all. Many people, ranging on all sides of the political divide, do NOT allow comments. This isn't because of "censoring" people, or fear of disagreement. It is that they don't want to read nastiness and bilge-talk (as opposed to reasoned disagreement), which all to often pushes aside the more polite posters.

Ace and Jeff Goldstein don't mind people saying "fuck" in their house. And that's fine. Their house, their rules. Maybe YOU don't mind people in your home talking like a drunken sailor in the place of honest argument.

But YOU don't get to make the rules for other people. I thought that Leftie types, so concerned about language about race, gender, and sexual preference, would understand that. But I guess that sensitivity changes when the target is someone you don't like.

It's a teenager argument that you should be able to say whatever you like, wherever you are. As a bank teller, you don't get to say "fuck" to customers. Ditto at ANY job where you deal with the public.

So don't blather on about free speech.

So if you cannot express yourself without insulting profanity, well, why not get your own blog and cuss away.

Frankly, I wish those people would do that, so that the other posters could actually discuss real issues.

Again, maybe Dr. Helen doesn't care about that kind of thing. But look again at how Dr. Helen disagrees with people, as opposed to "What makes you think anyone gives a fuck what you're doing for christmas?"

Yep, mighty classy, huh?

7:24 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe its because I live in Los Angeles, but isn't it a little early for SAD syndrome before the first day of winter.
Yesterday here in LA, it was windy cold, 35 to 43, freezing to the locals, just like December should be.
Even though it was the shortest day of the year, it was truly a very pleasant day, going on a limb, probably for all Easterners who remember a Christmas with a nip in the air.
Merry Christmas to all.

8:43 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger dadvocate said...

Merry Christmas, Helen and all, enjoy the sun and warmth.

It is such fine irony that those who despise you and Glenn are helping pay for this trip. Love it. I'm certain one reason that you attract trolls is that Glenn doesn't have posting at his site.

I doubt I'll ever understand how they reach such levels of anger, etc. It's not like you want force your creed on them. You just don't want them to force their creed on the rest of us.

And why are they so jealous of Glenn's career success, professorship, etc? Perhaps if they aimed their energies in more positive directions, they could have greater success themselves. But they waste their time trying to tear down someone else. Oh, well.

That "R" actually looks kinda nice on your forehead. It reminds me of the Star of India.

8:51 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't know you could take a trip to the Keys on all of $5? Unless, maybe you started out from the Everglades. I admit I am jealous though.

9:43 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Purple Avenger said...

I thought that Leftie types, so concerned about language about race, gender, and sexual preference, would understand that.

Me a lefty? Surely you jest.

10:44 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

Hey Anon 9:43:

Even if Dr. Helen only made 5 bucks--and your and your friends' juvenile attacks earn her far more, I'm guessing---it is five bucks that YOU made happen by acting like a jerk.

I love this concept. Smartalecks like you sound off, acting like jerks, and your target makes money off it.

And the worst you can say in response is that it isn't much money...but even with that comment, you make Dr. Helen more money!

The smart move would be for the trolls to quit posting...but they just can't help themselves. Another teenager trait.

11:11 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

Dear Purple Avenger:

Interesting blog.

Sorry to get annoyed, and unfairly lump you in with the nasty trolls, but I still can't get over the third grade taunting style of these people.

You are right about Ace, as I mentioned. And maybe Dr. Helen doesn't care about the profanity. But I think of it like a broken window or graffiti in a neighborhood---it USUALLY leads to less discussion, more name-calling, and drowns out posters who actually have something to contribute.

On the other hand, the Nasty Trolls are indeed contributing...to Dr. Helen's bank account!

Good blog, again...

11:19 PM, December 23, 2006  
Anonymous Barry said...

You have SAD?

That's what LIQUOR STORES are for.

11:50 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger Christy said...

Mostly I'm jealous that you can get away from family commitments for the holidays. Good for you.

Merry Christmas!

11:59 PM, December 23, 2006  
Blogger DRJ said...

Get away from family commitments, Christy? Maybe so, but it would be even more fun to take everyone along. My theory is "the more the merrier."

12:17 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger Purple Avenger said...

Carefully selected and well chosen profanity is useful. It adds a level of emphasis normal language simply can't provide.

The danger of course is in its overuse by a writer or speaker. Then it loses all its declarative power and degenerates into just another word written/spoken by the language challenged ;->

One of the very finest and effective practitioners of profanity as an "art form" I've ever had the pleasure of working with is THIS GUY Ted Bream, when he was a 3rd line test manager at IBM in Boca.

Back in the mid-80's my office was right across from Ted's and I could hear everything that went on. The man was a master. If some lower level manager went in there trying to hose him down (Ted had a finely tuned BS detector), Ted would smoothly transition from affable fellow to desk pounding hellion swearing like a sailor.

As a psychological technique it worked very well. After a "Breaming", most would be duly chastened and bring him the straight scoop next time. It was very difficult to lie to the guy because he did his homework and had been in engineering test before becoming an IBM manager.

2:23 AM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymouse-

I find it distasteful, and a sign of sloppy and immature thinking.

I find it sloppy and immature thinking to judge form rather than content. There are bright people that swear. There are morons that never swear.

Do you go to your mother's house and say "fuck"? How about your boss' home? What about your girlfriend's parents' house?

I said in my comment that sometimes people had good reason to swear. Like when they're being insulted, assaulted, etc. So if one of those situations occurred - yeah, I just might use a bad word or two.

It's not exactly rocket science that you moderate your own language to match the environment.

I wasn't defending the poster's statement. I was criticizing the blanket statement that people who sometimes swear can't be nice or good or intelligent people.

This is Dr. Helen's blog. It is like her home.

No, it isn't. Unless Dr. Helen lets the general public look into her home and post public comments on it.

And you actually think YOU get to set the rules in HER house?

I didn't say that. And as I noted above her blog is not like her house. (And as an aside even people living in other people's house's have certain rights. Does your landlord get to steal from you, sexually victimize you, or sell you for medical experiments?)

She doesn't have to allow comments at all.

Yeah, and if she didn't she'd be a nimrod, because the comments and discussion are what drives traffic.

This isn't because of "censoring" people, or fear of disagreement. It is that they don't want to read nastiness and bilge-talk (as opposed to reasoned disagreement), which all to often pushes aside the more polite posters.

Riiigght. I've noticed that the times when my comments have been cut off in forums has usually been when I was getting somewhere with my argument, rather than when I was being insulting, etc.

It's a teenager argument that you should be able to say whatever you like, wherever you are.

No it isn't. But it is dependent on place. I can say whatever I want in the privacy of my own home or other private space.

As a bank teller, you don't get to say "fuck" to customers. Ditto at ANY job where you deal with the public.

It depends on the job. I've been in white collar jobs where it was common to tolerate language like this from customers - because they were lucrative customers.

And I'm not a Lefty. Now that's insulting.

7:46 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger Peg C. said...

Dr. Helen,

It was 55 here in NY yesterday and we haven't had a flake of snow (Hudson Valley). I'm from L.A. so it feels normal in an unnatural way; I want snow now at Christmastime!

When I was little and we lived in Boston, we always spent Christmas on Sanibel Island, and yes, a total cure for SAD (which of course kids NEVER have but parents always do). All I know is nothing feels right when it's supposed to be snowy and cold but is warm and drizzly instead. I definitely envy you! Enjoy!

And I can attest to the IBM 3rd line mgr. profanity skill. I'm a little doubtful one can rise to that level without it.

7:53 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger Duke of DeLand said...

Dr. H.,
May you and your Glenn and the wee one enjoy your Keys respite. Here in Tampa we are getting much the same weather, and are blessed with family in from Houston, Jacksonville (FL), and nearby towns.

We are working on a recovery to my sister who recently suffered a stroke after bypass surgery.....

The combination of good and bad things (visits vs health issues) still leaves us glad for the family, the season and the opportunity to count our Florida blessings.

You can check some of my Christmas Cheer vis-a-vis pictures on my pic blog: http://tampatownreview.blogspot.com

May your holidays be joyous.

Duke

8:04 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger Peg C. said...

Anonymous 7:46:

There are many blogs that do not allow comments that are extremely successful - Instapundit and PowerLine, for starters. PowerLine has a forum for comments, which (in my opinion) is preferable to letting a blog degenerate into nastiness. And I strongly suspect the lack of comments has kept Instapundit going and as excellent as it is.

The best blog I ever read, which was more of a series of essays, was Steven Den Beste's USS Clueless. No comments there and it was widely read and revered throughout the blogosphere.

8:09 AM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

Dear Anon 7:46:

Have you noticed your reply was the extremely adult equivalent of "it is too!"?

And yet you call people who disagree with you a "nimrod", once again demonstrating your poor reasoning skills and less than mature self-absorbed attitude. Puh-leeze.

The amusing part, to me, is that you defend a poster to this blog who was saying "fuck" not as part of an argument, but to be nasty and insulting only. And your response was, hey presto, there are some justifications for cussing away at people. Like the poster in question's right? Hardly. He was just being a nasty troll...and that has nothing to do with argumentation or debate.

As for saying "fuck" at various jobs, I recommend you start using the word around your boss. Often. And saying it around your parents. Often. In fact, I recommend you start saying it in church, the library, and in restaurants. Try saying it wherever you go, since it is justified and even smart people say it.

Be free.

But then don't be surprised that people find you rude and unpleasant company.

Obviously, there are times and places, which was my original point. And the poster who started all of this was being a nasty troll, using that language only to shock and upset, without any kind (again) argumentation or debate.

You keep avoiding my point that YOU don't get to make rules for OTHERS on OTHER PEOPLE's blogs. And your logical fallacy that my own argument means that a landlord has the right to "..steal from you, sexually victimize you, or sell you for medical experiments..." is just plain silly. And I think you know it.

Dr. Helen decided to "open her door" on this blog to commenters. That gives no one a "right" to be a jerk.

I think you know all this, and just like to argue. So get your own blog, and then enjoy the fun of moderating comments and making sure that things do not descend into a mess of subteenager insults and such.

And remember where all this discussion started, please.

8:45 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger SarahW said...

Now that's a postacard I'd like to jump into. 'Cause I need a little June, right this very moment.

Merry Christmas to you and yours! The long hard slog through January, February and March begins...

9:17 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger paul a'barge said...

If you go to Bahia Honda Key, to the public park, you can walk out onto the old trestle bridge and jump into the water.

Don't miss the sunset at Key West.

9:22 AM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

And I want to thank the other posters for reminding me of what is really important during this time of the year: a chance to relax, chill out, and not get so angry at people who, quite frankly, enjoy making other people angry.

Christmas in Hawai'i is surreal, too. Santa on a surfboard. The incredible fireworks mess the morning after New Year's Eve.

But, beautiful sights outside the window or not, I still enjoy the wonderful view of my family during this season, together feeling healthy and happy.

Happy holidays to all....

10:06 AM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymouse-

Have you noticed your reply was the extremely adult equivalent of "it is too!"?

Have you noticed that your replies consist of ad hominem attacks, which is the adult equivalent of "you're a poopyhead".

The amusing part, to me, is that you defend a poster to this blog who was saying "fuck" not as part of an argument, but to be nasty and insulting only. And your response was, hey presto, there are some justifications for cussing away at people. Like the poster in question's right? Hardly. He was just being a nasty troll...and that has nothing to do with argumentation or debate.

Wasn't defending him. Simply pointed out the fallacy of your blanket condemnation of anyone that swears.

As for saying "fuck" at various jobs, I recommend you start using the word around your boss. Often. And saying it around your parents. Often. In fact, I recommend you start saying it in church, the library, and in restaurants. Try saying it wherever you go, since it is justified and even smart people say it.

No, I'll say it under the circumstances where I feel it would be appropriate, like when I am being assaulted.

You keep avoiding my point that YOU don't get to make rules for OTHERS on OTHER PEOPLE's blogs.

I've never tried to make the rules for other people's blogs. They can write whatever they want, unless they're libeling, slandering, smearing, or defaming me. I was criticizing your blanket condemnation of people who swear, not Dr. Helen.

And your logical fallacy that my own argument means that a landlord has the right to "..steal from you, sexually victimize you, or sell you for medical experiments..." is just plain silly. And I think you know it.

It wasn't a fallacy. You implied that whatever someone says in their house, goes. Which is incorrect. Of course I also criticized you comparing houses and blogs in the first place as well.

Dr. Helen decided to "open her door" on this blog to commenters. That gives no one a "right" to be a jerk.

Didn't say it did. But it goes with the territory. I probably wouldn't be reading here if the comments weren't lively.

10:29 AM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger TMink said...

WOW! It is a good Christmas present for me to know that you paid for the vacation with ad revenue off the unhinged crowd's nickle.

No I know some of the revenue comes from people that appreciate your blog. But that apparently so MUCH of it came from the folk whose postings I find so offensive and vapid, well, that just makes me all warm inside.

So I guess you have cried all the way to the beach!

Merry Christmas!

Trey

10:52 AM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous DocRambo said...

Dr. Helen, Instawife: Have a nice time in the Keys. Don't you just love to see the psychopathology pore forth from the anonymice? Maybe you could write a book about it? Dr. Jim in Nashville

11:13 AM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

Dear 10:29---nice job changing the argument to suit yourself, much like the Monty Python Argument Room.

I originally posted this:

"Sure, I could be wrong, but people who fling the word "fuck" around generally aren't the nicest and best of people. Or perhaps you aren't the Anonymous in question. Even so, you were certainly being rude and insulting."

As is very clear, I was referring to the trollish and immature person who wrote:

Anon 2:09: "What makes you think anyone gives a fuck what you're doing for christmas? Bragging, is all I can make of it."

It was that person's use of the term "fuck" to which I was referring. But I think you know that, and were just being a smartaleck.

I added my own feelings about folks who fling about profanity incessantly, and you went off on a rant on how even decent people say "fuck" all the time, and how you have the right to say "fuck" on anyone's blog, or at any place you choose.

Or when appropriate.

Or whatever.

Tell you what: you stick with your friends and their ways of expressing themselves in such a fashion, and I'll stick with mine.

The person or persons who originally posted the nasty material (Anon 2:09, 3:16, and 3:59) don't deserve your energy. No troll (as opposed to reasoned argument) does---read their posts again.

Best of luck to you, regardless of how you choose to express yourself to others.

And do enjoy the holidays. It is time to think about how to make the world a better place. You have your theories on that, and I have mine. As it should be.

2:24 PM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Robb Stevens said...

Dr. Helen, I wish you and yours the very best of everything this holiday season. I hope the sun works its magic on you energizes you throughout the remaining days of winter!

2:31 PM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger Purple Avenger said...

Peg, did you ever know Jack Boyce?

He was STSM up in NY who did big iron performance work. He came down to Boca around 1990.

4:50 PM, December 24, 2006  
Blogger tomcal said...

Hi Dr. Helen:

Happy Holidays to you and everyone you love and care about.

I'm writing you with the self-serving purpose of telling you I started my own blog. Also to thank you for introducing me to this wonderful medium, which allows one to spout off as well as keep a diary of one's thoughts over the years.

Thanks again and enjoy the Keys, you deserve it.

Tom

9:07 PM, December 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Helen...

If you make it as far south as Key West try to visit Hemmingway's House & The Truman Winter White House. You won't be disappointed...

As the very least enjoy some rum at the old Sloppy Joe's Cantina.

12:36 AM, December 25, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And do enjoy the holidays. It is time to think about how to make the world a better place. You have your theories on that, and I have mine. As it should be.

Just remember that when you use force or fraud to impose your theories on other people it is a crime and tort.

3:50 AM, December 25, 2006  
Anonymous Joel said...

Dr. Helen: How cool is this? I am so glad that you went South for a spell. As I mentioned in my comments earlier, my wife and I went to Bequia at Thanksgiving and had a wonderful time. I am sure that your will help tremendously with the SAD thing. We are also planning on going to Napa wine country in late Jaunary and then to San Juan at the end of February for a week. My wife wants to run in the Worlds Greatest 10K and I want to drink rum punches. It is a match made in heaven.

Knowing that I have some sun and fun in my relatively near future makes winter ultimately bearable.

By the way, my wife says I have a L on my forehead. She says it is for Loser, but I like to think it's for libertarian.

Merry Christmas.

Joel

8:04 PM, December 25, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DrJ, I like the way you think.

I discovered that I love the islands in early December. I came back one year with some fun reggae Christmas music.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Christy

9:27 PM, December 25, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anon3:50:

That's true. But when you bait and switch arguments instead of responding to the original argument, and set up straw men...well, that's plain boring.

12:38 PM, December 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous 12:38PM-

That's not what happened. From the beginning I stated that I was not defending the person using the F-word, but pointing out that the blanket statement "people who swear are unintelligent, bad, etc." was not true. "Anonymouse" brought in some arguments that were spurious, like blogs were the equivalent of people's houses, and I pointed out that they were spurious.

3:46 PM, December 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymouse said...

Okay, enough of this nonsense, though It does bring more money to Dr. Helen (which I think is great).

You keep shuckling and jiving. The first anonymous poster was being a jerk, and while you do not defend him, I notice that you don't condemn his juvenile behavior. I'm betting it really was you, anyway.

Regardless, I think that you are the anonymous person responsible for three separate digs at Dr. Smith---first that she is enjoying herself, second that her husband has tenure (Anon 3:16, Anon 3:59), and third that she should be giving money to charity (Anon 4:58).

This shows you are just a troll.

I doubt you have given much to charity, but who know if you would tell the truth. The comments you made about Dr. Reynolds are despicable and untrue (as I am sure you know, which is one reason I suspect you are the original poster).

It doesn't matter. It is just a sick game you play, trying to rile people up and playing word games.

You go ahead and defend people saying "fuck" during discourse with others all you want. As I said before, you hang out with your kind of people. You are welcome to them...and yes, there are all kinds of cool people who curse all the time. Except when they don't. And so on.

You are right out of Monty Python's "Argument Room," and missing the point entirely. Which is fine.

I'm the only person really responding to your nonsense and I am done. The other posters are clearly much smarter than I am for not engaging you.

You are just an insulting little troll, and you give nothing to this discussion of substance. Neither am I, arguing with you, but again, at least Dr. Helen will make a few bucks. Hopefully enough to buy a drink or something!

Enough.

10:35 PM, December 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymouse-

You keep shuckling and jiving. The first anonymous poster was being a jerk, and while you do not defend him, I notice that you don't condemn his juvenile behavior. I'm betting it really was you, anyway.

No, as an adult I just ignored it. Sometimes people say unpleasant things, most adults realize that.

Regardless, I think that you are the anonymous person responsible for three separate digs at Dr. Smith---first that she is enjoying herself, second that her husband has tenure (Anon 3:16, Anon 3:59), and third that she should be giving money to charity (Anon 4:58).

Wrong again. I didn't make those posts. I'm not familiar with Dr. Helen's husband so I could care less one way or the other. I've heard him on a couple of podcasts, but that's it.

I doubt you have given much to charity, but who know if you would tell the truth. The comments you made about Dr. Reynolds are despicable and untrue (as I am sure you know, which is one reason I suspect you are the original poster).

It's really none of your business what my means are, or whether or not I give to charity.

You are just an insulting little troll, and you give nothing to this discussion of substance.

It's pretty ironic that you disparage other people's maturity, adulthood, etc. in every other paragraph - because almost all the other paragraphs contain childish ad hominem attacks. I think that's called projection in the jargon of the mental health field.

7:20 AM, December 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think "Dr."Helen and the InstaLump were tourist characters in one of Hiassen's better books. Heh!

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