Saturday, December 02, 2006

Clueless PR

Wouldn't it be nice if the clueless PR places that send out PR spam would at least take the time to read or at least look at the blogs they send this crap to? Here is a typical letter I get from "fans" who want to send me free stuff:

Dear Dr. Helen,

As a fan and avid reader, congratulations all around for the big victory this last election, definitely a team effort.

And to spread the holiday cheer this season, I'd like to send you, on behalf of our publisher (a staunch Dem), comp. copies of our official 2007 George Bush Out of Office Countdown Calendar.

It's our bestselling contribution to the cause, and it's flat hilarious; with a countdown to the glorious day when W gets the boot, and classic Bushisms on the dates he said them. Thought you might get a kick out of it. (www.sourcebooks.com)

Whether you use them as a stocking stuffers or dartboards, thank you (and all the bloggers) for what you do. Again, I'd like to send you comp. copies for a gift, email me a shipping address and I can get them to you.

Thanks,
Tony

Tony Viardo
Publicist
Sourcebooks, Inc.

"Can’t stand the prez and his posse? Then look out for two new items in your local bookstore: The 2007 George W. Bush Out of Office Countdown wall calendar: Two Years and Counting and George W. Bush Out of Office Countdown Handbook: Hang in There, It's Almost Over!,both filled with Dubya’s bloopers. Creator Deb Werksman says, ‘The experience of reading it is one of horror and hilarity at the same time…’

—U.S.News & World Report, “Whispers,” August 14 issue


My reply? "If you actually read my blog and were an 'avid fan' you would know that I would never want such a calendar." As readers of my blog know, I just love "staunch" Democrats--yes, this blog just sings their praises all day. Right. Honestly, are PR people that damn lazy?

50 Comments:

Anonymous Mark L said...

"Honestly, are PR people that damn lazy?"

That's been my experience. If they were not, they would be doing something productive.

9:07 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger JohnF said...

I don't think they're clueless at all. They send out a zillion or so of these notices, and they don't care if some land at sites that don't want the message, so long as some (many) land at sites that do like the message.

9:34 AM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous triticale said...

Basic rule number one of Public Relations: I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right.

You gave them publicity, and I'll bet that at least one person who visits here for the purpose of disagreeing is going to buy one of them there calenders.

9:48 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger AJ Lynch said...

Hell, take the calendar and re-gift it to a friend. You must have one colleague who suffers from BDS-I work with a few and that is what I would do- they would be so thrilled especially if I threw in a photo of Bill Clinton.

Go figure.

9:50 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Triticale,

Yes, you are probably right.

9:50 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

aj lynch,

Not a bad idea, give a friend or colleague a thrill and save myself having to pick out a gift--why get annoyed when I can save money on gifts and donate it to the NRA instead, maybe in the name of the person with BDS that I gave the gift to in the first place.

9:54 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger dadvocate said...

In this case, I don't believe that the PR people are that lazy, they simply don't care. As triticale says it's all about publicity and they're getting it.

I might buy one for my most liberal sibling.

10:15 AM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The trouble is, Helen, that it worked! You gave free publicity to them including the publisher's name and product info. Maybe they send it to right and left blogs because even criticism is good publicity. Lefties check in here too.

10:52 AM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as bad publicity. It's all about reaching the people who DO want it. That's why the celebrities ALWAYS act so bad right before their new works come out. It's like a girl who flashes her boobs to attract men. It does define her in a way that has a long term impact - but it increases sales in the here and now.

10:55 AM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What metric is there in the world of PR by which those who practice the trade may be measured? Yes, it is a necessary position, a productive career if practiced productively, but how is an employer to know?

10:56 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Evan M. Thomas said...

Dr. Helen,

This was a postive spam on their part; you posted their ad for free.

10:58 AM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger MaoBi said...

They didn't do anything wrong. You disagreed yet you gave them publicity. What do you blog for? To get your view out. What do they send you such mails for? To get publicity out of your blog.

Ironically it's a win-win.

11:29 AM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous wf said...

There you have it, Dr. Helen: now you will have to find a way to put the hurt on these guys or they´ll never stop! Make ´em pay!

12:20 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

triticale said...
Basic rule number one of Public Relations: I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right.

And as those who hail from Knoxville, TN and are sufficiently long in the tooth would know, an early advocate of that was grocer Cas Walker. And his first corrolary was "say it in the paper."

12:33 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's no such thing as bad PR?? What?? I have two words for you: Michael Jackson.

This, to be clear, is what bad PR looks and smells like. Yes, many PR people are lazy as hell, the one who sent you this stuff being one of them.

Bad PR is bad for the agency as well as their client. You didn't give them a soapbox to spread their message -- you pointed out that they, like many of their ideological kind, just don't do their homework very well.

12:40 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Jon Swift said...

I wouldn't underestimate these wily Democrat publicists. Clearly this one knew you would be outraged and would be goaded into dedicating a post to reproducing his email in its entirety. Unfortunately, you fell right into his trap. Mission accomplished.

12:53 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Beau Blue said...

I guess the PR guys think it's better to count down days in office than count UP the deaths in Iraq that'll occur during that same period? Those punk Dems, they never get anything right. -blue

1:25 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Eric Tatro said...

"Honestly, are PR people that damn lazy?"

Well, *bad* PR people are, yes. There are those of us in public relations who really do read blogs, develop relationships with bloggers and reporters, and honestly make an effort only to send *relevant* information tailored for a specific blogger we are familiar with.

Unfortunately, one bad apple...

1:36 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger dadvocate said...

Cas Walker was a true icon of Knoxville politics and the regional grocery business. He would intentionally spill coffee grounds on the floor to make his stores smell good. As a kid, I would ask my mother to go to Cas Walker's so I could smell the coffee grounds.

He also had one of the best slogans ever: "Cas Walker's Meat Can't Be Beat!" No kidding. We laughed about this all through high school.

2:38 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Vicki Small said...

Back in the mid-90's, as we approached Election 1996, I received a letter from the Democrats' national election committee, by whatever name, appealing to educators. It told how they needed my money to defeat the Republicans and other conservatives.

I wrote across the top of it, "Yes, I am an educator. I am also a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican. Take me off your list."

Such pigeon-holing they do!

3:41 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Mark Poling said...

Of course, if this were a lefty site and the publicist had been hawking a pro-Bush package, Sourcebooks would still be under a Denial of Service attack....

3:45 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Vicki,

As a psychologist, I often get those and other letters telling me about the horrible things that will befall my field if the Republicans take over. "Good" I think to myself, "this field needs a shakedown." Then I usually go vote for the Libertarian, Republican or Independent who I think will do a better job.

3:48 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Dr. Blogstein said...

Doc:

They're not all that bad. Check out this chick's posting here:

http://typingpool.blogspot.com/2006/11/prize-publicist.html

by the way, my word verification for this comment is "bliipie" AWESOME!

5:03 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Daryl Herbert said...

I don't think it's right to say this was "bad" PR.

If this was done on behalf of a politician or a serious political movement, it would be undeniably lame.

But they're just trying to hawk a stupid book or calendar or whatever.

How much effort do you expect? They're not trying to establish a relationship or convince you of anything, they just want Bush-hating bloggers to take the calendar and then blog about it so other people will buy it.

5:19 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. HELEN: !

Nice new pics, probably a result of That lucky guy your husband's preoccupation with Photography.

But I digress.

Belongs on the previous two threads but thought you might see it here.

Just had a little phone in Chat with Kay Heimowitz on talk radio on her new book, Marriage & Caste in America"
very surprising (yet not so surprising) stuff.

Since you and the Professor Mr. Pundit J.D. are so invested in Academia, I think she would make an for an excellent PODCAST in the future.

She's articulate, funny, very honest, has some surprising data on College Women and intact families and future success of women, and the health and success of the KIDS.

She discusses a term, maybe it's her term maybe not, "Committed to the Mission"

I think you two would hit it off kinda.

-------------------------------------
Item three -- more digression

Great gun & bull moose Story
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/4039-Bull-Moose-and-Bear-A-True-Story.html

Item four -- Great "Husband Store" story http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/4036-The-Husband-Store.html

But as I began -- alas I digress

Sincerely, As alwalys

Econ-Scott

6:35 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous MS said...

@ Helen:
"My reply? 'If you actually read my blog and were an 'avid fan' you would know that I would never want such a calendar.'"

Oh come along, Helen, of course you want one. In fact...
Many of you may not realise it, but in addition to her many other activities, our esteemed host spends much of her time on the road traveling, mentoring staff at member companies of the US's largest paper recycling conglomerate. As she spends so much time on site and therefore difficult to reach, to make sure she sees any promotional material, it is perhaps best to mail it to each and every plant. Naturally the staff in each region would all like copies too. They also travel between the plants.

Material should be sent to Helen's coordinator's office at each recyling plant
The Respect And Self Help Manager (Eastern)
...sometimes known by its acronym!

6:42 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Oligonicella said...

Just remember, it was someone in PR who came up with that creepy, big-headed king waking up in bed with some guy and peeking in bedroom windows. Eew.

6:46 PM, December 02, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Econ-Scott,

Yes, off topic but I have the "Marriage and Caste in America" book, and have thought of doing a podcast on it. It looks interesting.

7:03 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are incredibly attractive, Dr. Helen.

Nice new pics!

9:22 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, what's the prob?

They're using precisely the same strategy that -- if you'll forgive a somewhat repulsive analogy -- we've been using to reproduce for millions of years. Many of the seeds, so to speak, fall on what you might call hard and stony ground -- but overall, it works.

Actually, Jesus had a less disgusting analogy, but I like this one better.

10:51 PM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Garrett O'Hara said...

Doesn't surprise me. I had a link to Pro-Life Blogs right on my blogroll, and some Planned Parenthood person still decided it was a good idea to ask me to link to a pro-choice online petition. Go figure.

11:00 AM, December 03, 2006  
Blogger Purple Avenger said...

Tell'em you want several cases. It'll cost'em money. Then a week later say you need a few more free cases.

6:07 PM, December 03, 2006  
Blogger Kent said...

Others have already covered the essential points, but it's still worth repeating: The PR folks are making a perfectly rational calculation that it is less expensive to send the solicitation to the wrong person than to do the research necessary to determine who the right person is.

The only thing you can do about it is to raise the cost of soliciting you by mistake. You tried to do so by heaping scorn on them in a posting. Again, as others have already pointed out, this was a mistake: It has likely increased the return to the solicitor.

You can increase the cost to the solicitor, without increasing the return, by stringing him along as long as possible. However, I have a basic honesty issue with this.

Best is probably just to hang up, or the email equivalent. Who is your mail host? AOL treats any complaint about spam as valid until proven otherwise; my wife has had her account blocked twice for sending PTO mailings to folks she could swear had told her they wanted the mailing.

11:04 AM, December 04, 2006  
Anonymous bugs said...

The lazy PR people are the ones we don't get spam from.

11:27 AM, December 04, 2006  
Blogger serket said...

One time I got an e-mail from an enviromental blog asking me to check it out and see if I wanted to join their group. My blog is not about politics or the environment. I checked out the site and they were definitely liberal bloggers. If you check out the sites I have links to, you can guess that I'm not a liberal.

If someone posts a comment on my blog that has nothing to do with the post, but is just spam for their blog, I delete it.

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