Sunday, February 24, 2008

Victor Davis Hanson has an interesting piece up over at PJM on how we ended up with Obama:

One wonders how the United States has come to the brink of nominating and probably electing someone with almost no experience as either an executive or national legislator, replete with ratings and rankings that suggest he will be about the most liberal Presidential candidate since George McGovern.

You can read more here.



Blogger leon said...

Many on the Left were asking the same questions (albeit the opposite partisanship) before AND after Bush was elected to the White House.

The answer is the of the pendulum that swings too far.

10:14 AM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger DADvocate said...

The Bush administration has probably been the poorest at articulating its positions in forever. Hanson misses the boat on open borders. Bush wanted open borders while his base didn't.

The left hated Bush because of Iraq and their own proclivities. Bush's base came to distrust him because of his stance on illegal immigration. Thus his ratings became almost as bad as the Democratic Congress'.

Hanson could have delved more deeply into how the Clintons' blew it too. They let a more likable candidate get ahead of them by stubbornly and narcissistically being themselves.
Hanson pretty much hits on the head the reasons for Obama's popularity. Pretty scary reasons since he lacks experience and his positions are not clear but just feel good statements at this point. But, given McCain's liberal tendencies on some issues, the differences between Obama and McCain, outside of the War on Terror, are on issues that don't matter as much as the ones that do.

No matter who's elected, the next presidency holds more danger than promise. The liberals are singing, laughing and feeling all warm and fuzzy as they lead this country down the path of self-destruction. With a Democratic Congress, John McCain probably won't stop the runaway train.

10:28 AM, February 24, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember reading somewhere that most women who actually voted for Bill Clinton did so because he was a pretty face.

I recently saw a photo at a Hillary rally in the news where an attendee had on a T-shirt that said "I miss Bill".

I had never heard of Bill Clinton until he was all of a sudden the chosen one for the democrat party. Same with Obama. Hillary's back up choice for the party.

Ronald Reagan did not make me a conservative republican. Jimmy Carter (and working for a living) did. Because of him I am dyed in the wool, however.

The day our nation has to negotiate from a position of weakness rather than strength, will be a bad day for the world, not just America. And it will grow exponentially from there.

Give a mouse a cookie....

If I do not have enough to take care of myself first, how am I going to have enough left over to help take care of someone else?

What does the steward / stewardess tell you to do when the emergency air piece drops out of the ceiling at 35,000 feet? Put your own on first. You can't help anyone else put theirs on if you are already passed out from lack of oxygen.

We are becoming socialist more and more every day. It does not work. Why can't so many see that?

11:39 AM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger Mercurior said...

but look at your experienced politicians, he cant do worse than them.

12:01 PM, February 24, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I beg to differ. As this thing progresses, the previous "generation's" ceiling, becomes the next ones floor.

From what I have read, mercurior, roughly 55% of the British population, if they had the chance and means, would leave that island nation.

12:43 PM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger David Foster said...

NONE of the current candidates have any experience in running a large organization. None of them has ever run a state or large city, a company with several thousand employees, an infantry division, or a carrier battle group...nothing larger than a senate office staff or a fighter squadron.

We are electing a chief executive, not a chief policy wonk or a chief speechmaker. But I'd bet there are at least a hundred readers of this blog who have more executive experience than do any of the candidates.

12:48 PM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger Mercurior said...

i would say its going to be more like 70% soon. I was also saying about our elected leaders as well.

i would rather someone who doesnt know anything, than someone who thinks they know everything.

someone who is smart enough to know how dumb they are and ask for proper advice. i see a lot of politicians as being totally divorced from the realities of real people.

The reason why so many brits want to leave is the leaders, they all have a preconceived idea on how it should be run. And they make draconian laws to protect the minority. Because that is what they know. politicians can be brainwashed into following the party line, rather than the true nature of the country.

as has been seen so many times in so many countries.

1:49 PM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger Job said...

Leon, I don't think that W and Obama are comparable in terms of experience.

W had been a governor of a major state for 7 years when he was running for President. And he had prior experience in White House operations (under his father) and he had some private sector management experience running the TX Rangers.

Obama has been in the US Senate for 1 year. Before that, he was an Illinois state legislator for 6 or 8 years. Obama has no executive experience, no military experience and very little national legislative experience.

You might not like W's policies but W clearly had much more relevant experience than Obama to be president. It's not even close.

5:17 PM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger BobH said...

Speaking of George McGovern, didn't he lose 49 states. Didn't Mondale get the same treatment. I'm expecting Obama to suffer the same fate.

You read it here first folks.

I can just imagine the campaign slogan: "Obama, just another socialist hack". It's gotten to the point where Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.

6:04 PM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger TMink said...

Well, one great thing about Obama is that he is not Jesse Jackson. I think a lot of his appeal is that he is black, and it will be good to have a black president someday. Just not him!


6:22 PM, February 24, 2008  
Blogger Mike said...

The only two things that I have heard from Obama that disturb me enough to not vote for him are his cluelessness about spending, and his visceral hatred of the 2nd amendment. Despite all of his rhetoric about hope and change, there is nothing in there about trusting the individual to use the 2nd amendment for positive ends like self-defense. If anything, his leftist views should sound cynical to anyone who isn't a leftist because they are profoundly distrustful of the ethic of our country.

Libertarians, not left-liberals like Obama, are the ones who have the audacity to hope that fallen man may yet be virtuous on his own. It's libertarians who generally trust their neighbor with more firepower than the law will typically allow because they believe that most of their neighbors are decent, sane people at the end of the day. The thought of anything more powerful than a pellet gun or sharper than a butter knife (in Britain now) makes the left get very upset.

What's a damn shame is that Ron Paul doesn't have the public speaking skills that Obama does. If he had that stage presence, he'd have crushed McCain in the primaries, and would have Obama on the run.

My generation (I'm 24) grew up with the 1960s culture as the establishment. There is nothing new, nothing hopeful and nothing different about what Obama is preaching and what was preached back then, and failed, under leaders like LBJ. What this country needs is an eloquent candidate who will, when elected, put his or her boot squarely up the collectivists' asses, and send them packing from D.C.

12:07 PM, February 25, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

miket - I'm 47 and I agree with your last paragraph.

"Experience" can help you get things done - you know how the system works and how to play it to your advantage. "Experience" can also mean your ideas, beliefs and policies have been formed in a specific environment, one that may be very different from the one you're working in today. That second kind of experience can be a liability. See the election of 2004 - it was all about the 60s because that's when our candidates learned their politics. Unfortunately, Obama (and you and I) grew up under the 60s' shadow. It will be a long time before any politicians in this country step back into the light.

3:47 PM, February 25, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not that I like Obama (I don't) but now that he appears to have a solid lead, it looks like the real Bill and Hillary are beginning to stand up.

They haven't even changed their methods from last time around.

I was a long haired high-pie in the 60's. Don't admit it very often. I snapped out of it about 1973.

6:12 PM, February 25, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Residents and gov't employees in and around the D.C. area are overwhelmingly left wing. One is hard pressed to find an individual in the area whose native tongue is American English.

It will be harder to remove the bureaucrats than the elected officials. I don't see true welfare reform happening, for instance, when millions nationwide are employed by that system. The gov't is by far the largest employer in the nation.

I was at the new FDA facilities in Maryland, working on the emergency power system. I was taken aback by the size of the complex. Even more so when I learned it is only one of many complexes just for the FDA.

Take a trip around the beltway and get off at every exit. Drive up and down each road about ten miles either direction. You won't believe what you see as afar as gov't complexes. Unreal.

7:19 AM, February 26, 2008  
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