The other Glenn and Helen Show
I interviewed men's rights activist Glenn Sacks on PJTV today on why blogging is so important in terms of activism for the men's movement. We talk about the biased ads from JC Pennys showing men put in the doghouse for giving the wrong gift, why men won't stick up for themselves, how to make it politically expensive to bash men in our society and more! You can watch the show here (currently free with no registration). Please support our endeavors at PJTV--for it is one of the few places that will give politically incorrect ideas like ours a place to be heard.
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Labels: men's activism, men's rights (or lack thereof), PJTV
posted by Helen at 5:19 AM
11 Comments:
I've noticed that valentines days and anniversaries tend to be birthday parties for wives, and that husbands tend to be put in the dog house for not doing enough, even when it far exceeds what is done for them.
It's not that women are naturally this way. Our society pumps expectations and negativity into women through many forms of media on a constant basis.
On the other hand, men are constantly fed with sexual and beautiful images of women. Men spend to impress women, women spend to look good for men while at the same time demanding and expecting much. Lotsa money tiz being made.
In many ways it's a contradiction. But a profitable one.
Did the JC Penny ad appear on TV at some point, or was this something that never aired, or was this something that was produced and rejected by JC Penny?
I watch some TV, but only certain shows. I've never seen the ad on TV, or any parts of it, or something similar to it. If someone has seen it on TV, I'd like to know.
My favorite movie: "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057193/quotes
J. Russell Finch: Wait a minute, are you knocking this country? Are you saying something against America?
J. Algernon Hawthorne: Against it? I should be positively astounded to hear anything that could be said FOR it. Why the whole bloody place is the most unspeakable matriarchy in the whole history of civilization! Look at yourself! The way your wife and her strumpet of a mother push you through the hoop! As far as I can see, American men have been totally emasculated- they're like slaves! They die like flies from coronary thrombosis while their women sit under hairdryers eating chocolates & arranging for every 2nd Tuesday to be some sort of Mother's Day! And this infantile preoccupation with bosoms. In all time in this Godforsaken country, the one thing that has appalled me most of all this this prepostrous preoccupation with bosoms. Don't you realize they have become the dominant theme in American culture: in literature, advertising and all fields of entertainment and everything. I'll wager you anything you like that if American women stopped wearing brassieres, your whole national economy would collapse overnight.
:-)
I watched this show and thought it was excellent. Mr. Sacks is one of the premiere advocates for men's rights (or lack thereof), and it's very refreshing to see a woman of Dr. Helen's stature stand up and support him.
I certainly agree with most of what Mr. Sacks had to say about how men are built to protect women and children, not other men, and the corrosive effects of misandry in contemporary culture. I also agree that men need to organize and fight back against the tide of feminist male-bashing.
But I disagree that this is a male problem. I think it's a female problem, one that goes to a total lack of respect for men. Yeah, it's cultural and media driven, but I don't think there's anything men can really do about it, because they will only be ridiculed and characterized as losers and complainers. Women created this problem, with their bad attitude, and only women can solve it, by dumping their bad attitude.
This is why I've never gotten married. I don't put up with attitude, not from anybody. I don't care who she is, what she looks like, how good she is in bed. The first hint of bad attitude I see, I'm out the door.
I've been on hundreds of dates over the years, and it's almost always the same. We go to dinner, and she starts complaining about men, or makes some snide little put down thinking it's funny, and I stand up, throw $20 on the table and walk out the restaurant. Let her take a cab home.
If more men reacted the way I do, instead of putting up with it, I think women would dump their bad attitude real quick, because no one would have anything to do with them.
It's just not worth it. Investing in a relationship with a woman today is like dumping money into a sink hole. Of course, it goes without saying that there are good women who are worth it--I'd say about 20%--but the vast majority, 80%, aren't worth the time of day.
Until women get back to accepting that marriage is a partnership, that includes respecting their partner and accepting their role and responsibilities in a relationship of co-equals, nothing is going to change. And more's the pity for it, because the current path we're on is the road to societal suicide.
Women, and their children, will suffer more when this whole charade comes crashing down, and they'll have no one to blame for it but themselves.
GawainsGhost,
I think the point that Sacks was making is that if there is a political price to be paid for the bad attitude and male bashing, it will decrease. The problem is men are not willing to be the bad guys because the culture and perhaps evolution tell them to protect women. This need must be overcome in order to make any change in the way men are treated in our society, unfortunately. I do agree with you that women need to solve the problem because they are part of it. The cost to them for treating men badly must be politically and socially expensive. Right now, it is seen as humorous, even by men. Men themselves do not think they need any help or a men's movement because they have not come in contact with the courts, a particularly toxic relationship or sexual harassment charges that would probably change their tune.
@javadoug
Bosoms may be the last domestic industry to collapse: will they need a bailout to prop them up?
Helen
Thanks for letting Glenn on your show, I felt he was able to talk without interruptions and actually was able to speak his mind. I'm not used to that from past shows he has been on. He's usually out numbered, 4 to 1 on other shows and is not allowed to talk and I felt very little was accomplished. It was very refreshing to here him talk in length about these very true issue that exist today with men. But I have to say through experience that there are still a lot of women out there that just can't bring themselves to admit that there is a problem at all and simply put just don't want to hear it and get upset at the whole male bashing thing. Thank you again.
Sad_Dad,
Thanks for the comment. It was an honor to have Glenn on the show. These types of issues need to be discussed in full, not in five second sound bites on the Oprah or Dr. Phil show where men are booed (I saw one such show recently and was appalled). I look forward to bringing more of these men's issues to light on PJTV.
I can't figure out why so many women exhibit a behavior that drives men away. Seems stupidly self-defeating.
Until women realize that men are just men (and not pigs), they will keep suffering in a world that they created.
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