Is Obama Feminized?
So I took a look at a book entitled The New Feminized Majority this week that purports to show how the values of American voters are dramatically shifting. How? According to the literature accompanying the book, there is a new feminized majority made up of both women and men that is:
I love the presumption by the writers of the book description that certainly anyone reading it would be just thrilled to have progressive and socialist values shoved down their throats. There is no indication or question about whether these are good values to have, simply that they will "open up a window for major social justice movements to make progressive change."
Now, naturally, this "feminized" change may take the form of a male presidential candidate. The authors are not too keen on Clinton whom they describe as a "pathbreaking" but imperfect carrier of the feminized agenda. They seem to love Edwards but since he is out of the race, we will turn to their thoughts on feminized Obama:
Funny, I can't help but think that the word feminized used by these authors is just another metaphor for socialism:
I think the new feminized majority is just another name for the same old socialist agenda. If so, count me out.
...emerging as the pivotal force in American politics. Emerging trends show these values are broadly progressive and address not just the needs of women but the general interests of society. They are held by women substantially more than by men but have become the values held by a majority of all voters, including millions of men.
Like earlier eras in American history, such as the New Deal, the rise of the feminized majority today presents an opportunity for the Democrats to become the governing party for decades to come.
I love the presumption by the writers of the book description that certainly anyone reading it would be just thrilled to have progressive and socialist values shoved down their throats. There is no indication or question about whether these are good values to have, simply that they will "open up a window for major social justice movements to make progressive change."
Now, naturally, this "feminized" change may take the form of a male presidential candidate. The authors are not too keen on Clinton whom they describe as a "pathbreaking" but imperfect carrier of the feminized agenda. They seem to love Edwards but since he is out of the race, we will turn to their thoughts on feminized Obama:
Here is Obama's feminized philosophy in a nutshell. He highlights the importance of values in his own life and in the nations politics. He emphasizes that there is a "common good" or universal set of values that can bring all Americans together. He stresses change and the movement from self-interested patisanship to a feminized politics of the common good....
Obama is markedly feminized in his critique of the self-interested, greedy, "old politics" of partisanship. "It is such partisanship that has turned Americans off. What is needed is a broad majority who are reengaged and who see their own self-interest as inextricably linked to the interest of others." Here, the feminized Obama challenges the historic, masculinized American dream of looking out for oneself. Obama seeks to move American from narrow "self interest" (the masculinized narrative of Alone I Will) to a concept of shared interest with others (the feminized narrative of Together We Can, which Obama often cites as "Yes, We Can")...
Obama straddles the maculinized/feminized divide in foreign policy. As the 2008 campaign unfolds, he increasingly emphasizes soft power--diplomacy, international law, and cooperation--in the war on terrorism...
Funny, I can't help but think that the word feminized used by these authors is just another metaphor for socialism:
Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.
I think the new feminized majority is just another name for the same old socialist agenda. If so, count me out.
46 Comments:
Simplicio. So Bill Clinton was the first black President and Barack Obama will be the first female President?
Salviati. No, no, the first feminized President! Advanced postmodern conceptualizations must be approached with nuance and sophistication...
Yea, he's a socialist. It's one of the more obvious of his flaws.
He may go down in flames like McGovern did to Richard Nixon, who was a moderate hawk, kinda like John McCain. Just because the press is gaga for Obama doesn't mean middle America will be, come the General election.
gs, Galileo doesn't get the respect he deserves from Humanities folks. I think his Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina is the best reconciliation between religion and science, ever.
Galileo wasn't feminized. Pffft.
While we're on to Renaissance Humanism, Machiavelli didn't think much of effeminate leaders.
I have yet to meet a manly man, in this uber-PC town of Ann Arbor, Mi., who is an ardent Obama supporter.
Feminism, like most isms, is collectivist in nature. This particular collectivism puts gender solidarity above all other priorities; its specific us-vs-them conception requires women to view men as an adversary army. All collectivisms are philosophically socialist; there's no way to privilege a group above individuals without incorporating socialist premises in your ideology.
Feminist socialism, racist socialism, national socialism, Islamic socialism...take your pick. Some of these poisons work faster than others, but all of them leave you dead in body, and in some cases, in mind and spirit too.
A feminized society won't survive the influx from south of the border. Where I live is right on the border between the good part of Reston and Herndon, Virginia and the Mexican parts of Herndon. The women I know, ranging from my wife to coworkers, who live near such places, are afraid of going near the Mexicans. This is true regardless of the woman's race, be she Asian, white, black, etc. All of them have had major problems with the Mexican men.
The only tragedy is that it won't be the women who defend illegal immigration who will suffer the most.
Judging from the press' reaction to talk show host, Bill Cunningham, remarks yesterday where Cunningham called Obama a "political hack" and used Obama's full name 3 times, yes, Obama is feminized. The press is taking the same over-protective attitude often taken towards women.
There is no comparison Cunningham's remarks to references often made about George Bush by liberals. The most masculine Democratic candidate is a woman.
By your definition all lefties are feminized -- which they are.
I second what Francis W. Porretto said. And what dadadvocate said. And what ricpic said.
Count me out too, Dr. Helen.
The thing about feminism is that there is nothing feminine about it. Rather, it is rabidly anti-feminine, because as it denies the importance of manhood, it denies the importance of womanhood as well.
Most people tend to confuse feminism for what it really is. It is not about equal rights or equal opportunities in education and employment. That was the suffragette movement of the early 20th century. And those women had legitimate complaints. In a modern, egalitarian society, there is no reason why a woman should not have the right to vote or attend college or pursue the career of her choice. But none of the suffragettes wanted to emasculate men or wanted to abolish marriage as an institution; they certainly did not support abortion on demand.
Feminism, seen in its proper context, is simply a small part of the larger deconstruction movement that swept through academia in the 1950s and 60s. It seeks to decontruct or tear down and redefine traditional ideas of marriage and family, of manhood and fatherhood, and of womanhood and motherhood. It has largely succeeded in that endeavor, much to the detriment of everyone everywhere.
But the problem with deconstructionism is this. Now that everything has been torn down, what are you going to replace it with? Nothing constructive, that's for damn sure.
Socialism is simply slavery writ large. It's a bankrupt ideology that cannot and will not survive the test of time. Soon it will go the way of all things, as will feminism which is its illegitimate child.
There is a reason why traditional values and mores have withstood the test of time, have survived for thousands and thousands of years. Because they are grounded in truth and reality.
Deconstructionism, socialism, progressivism, feminism, whatever ideological flavor of the moment you can name cannot sustain itself, because all are grounded in falsehood and fantasy.
Obama seeks to move American from narrow "self interest"...to a concept of shared interest with others
I know people keep saying stuff like this, but I just don't see it that way. In fact, it seems to me that Obama's rhetoric almost entirely appeals to self-interest, while attempting to disguise itself as appealing to shared interest. Kind of like "together we can quit bickering and achieve unity and work together to make sure that government gives each of you more and more goodies...".
"from narrow "self interest"...to a concept of shared interest with others"...any such move would be totally antithetical to the culture of the Democratic Party, which sees American society as a Hobbesian war of group against group.
When it comes down to it, either Obama or Clinton will support the narrow self-interest of (for example) the NEA rather than our shared interest in improving education.
So much excellent commentary above says what I was going to but with more wit, that all I have to add is this:
If I was female, I would be mighty offended at the perversions attached to the perfectly excellent word "feminine." As it is, the nonsense about "feminization" just makes me reach for the Tylenol.
I am going to disagree on Obama being feminized per se: another postion would be to state that Obama has learned to more perfectly make the mask of the femized male fit that he may more smoothly get his way. I take this idea from having observed the successful fake Christians in the church: this was one of the last lessons I learned attending church in the Southland.
Obama is revolutionary: he needs to cover himself with the dominant platitudes in order to gain power and wield it. The inner circle understands this and seeks his success: it is the useful idiots in the outer circles who don't get it. Look to Obama's cousin Odinga for possible behaviors: we will not only see a rapid socialization of America but also rampant black rage and the rapid ascendency of Islam.
"open up a window for major social justice movements "
Social justice is just another word for witchhunt. What the feminists did to the Duke Lacrosse team was 'social justice'. Of course, it was no justice at all, but then that's social justice in a nutshell.
All the feminist books I've read, by Catherine MacKinnon and Gloria Steinem and Marilyn French and others, say that the only purpose of the womens' movement is to spread Marxism. They all said "the purpose of the women's movement is the destruction of white, European males, capitalism, and the Christian church." They all quoted it the same, as if it is some agreed upon mission statement and every feminist is following it. So then, that would fit perfectly with what you've observed here.
Excepting the hard-core union guys and minoirty men who are there for other reasons, there aren't many "real men" left in the Democrat party.
I do not see him as feminine, but I do see the point that socialism is a sort of hyperfeminization. Women are often wonderfully community oriented. It is a gift and helps with attaching to children and guiding our culture.
Men are often wonderfully individualistic and personally responsible, it helps us get jobs done and protect our families.
Either can and is taken too far, but they are at their core complimentary.
Socialism is perhaps feminized in the same way that extreme libeterianism is hypermasculine.
Maybe.
Trey
1. "highlights the importance of values in his own life and in the nations politics" -- like the role of faith in George Bush's life?
2. "emphasizes that there is a "common good" or universal set of values" -- like the desire for freedom George Bush insists exists within every person?
3. "stresses change and the movement from self-interested patisanship to a (snip) politics of the common good" -- like the 'new tone'?
Rough translation: It's OK when we do it. And the authors don't see the irony.
Like campaigning in churches while decrying the influence of the Religious Right. Like imposing values in a way they'd label 'oppressive', 'intolerant' or 'un-inclusive' if their political enemies did it.
I could go on, but folks here know what I'm talking about.
P.S. Accessorizing free market societies with things like pacifism and metrosexuality only work if the world's predators play along (naive pipedream) or civilization is protected by martial vigor.
Unfortunately, none of our current or potential enemies buy into the authors' gender-engineering delusions.
Feminizing boys and classifying male behavior as pathologies to be remedied with indoctrination, therapy and drugs will only prepare them -- and the societies which they, along with women, are responsible -- for submission.
Of course, this will all be celebrated as 'conflict avoidance and resolution'. Weakness masquerading as virtue.
I'm beginning to suspect that Obama as a general election candidate is every bit as flawed as John Kerry was, and the Dems won't see it for the same reason. They're evidently incapable of believing that ordinary people think for themselves and make up their minds themselves.
Without KKKarl Rove's Evil Mind Ray controlling the thoughts of middle America, Obama should waltz to victory (just as Kerry *would* have, absetn the EMR).
Obama's electoral flaws are just as apparent (to anyone who cares to look) as were John Kerry's. (I mean, did *anyone* with any sense actually expect Kerry to be the beneficiary of a large veterans' vote? The non-ideologue vets I know saw through him immediately, and if some of them wouldn't vote for Bush they didn't vote for Kerry, either.)
I doubt if the MSM will be any better at carrying water for him than they were for Kerry, but I suppose we'll see. Reformations have their own tides.
jeff@12:51 AM, February 27, 2008,
I should have set Candide in Simplicio's place and Pangloss in Salviati's. It was late, my spotty education was groping for a figure of speech, and Wikipedia was seductively handy...
(Thanks for pointing out Galileo's letter.)
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More accurate than calling candidate Obama feminized is calling him "an empty vessel filled with the wishful thinking of those around him." However, the empty vessel is riding the wave that smashed the Republican Congress in 2006.
It's funny that the feminization of religion was covered so well - by a woman, Ann Douglas - three decades ago in the Feminization of American Culture. It only stands to reason that it would all leech into politics as well.
"The new feminized majority... emerging as the pivotal majority in American politics."
The author is accurate. Democrats nationally are approximately 57% female; 24% minority Black and Hispanic; 4% gay or lesbian, and 25% white feminized males. Today they constitute a majority of Democrats.
Of course Barak Obama is feminized.
His rhetoric does "address" the "values" and "need" of women. And he uses the buzz words of feminism. Obama must support the values of women voters if he expects to be elected.
This is nothing new, actually. In California this politically feminized group had been a voting majority, 60%, for 20 years. Feminine "values" reflecting the "needs of women" of this voting majority have been enacted into law and state budgets.
Senators Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, and House Speaker Nancy Polosi are just a few of California's many power gals.
In California this is just some of the result of enacting laws that reflect the needs and values of woemn:
* 1.8% of all men in California are in jail or prison (250,000 plus 24,000 housed out of state).
* 9% of men in California are on parole or ex-felons without voting rights (1.5 million men).
* The cost of the criminal justice system exceeds the cost of K-12 education in California this year.
* 9% (1:11) of young boys in elementary school are required to take mood altering drugs (PE and sports have been eliminated from K-12 schools as unnecessary).
* The Teacher Union and Prison Guards Union are the two most powerful political organizations in the state.
* K-12 education is failing statewide with API scores 48th in the nation. 38% percent of males fail to graduate from HS on in urban counties like LA, Stockton, and Oakland.
* Teenage prostitution is out of control in California. Public buses in San Jose, LA, Oakland, have big signs that read "Have sex with an underage girl, go to jail." The penalty for teenage prostitutes is one day in juvenile detention and a call home to mothers. (Girls will be girls)
* Many of the largest cities in California are either in Chapter 7 bankruptcy, emerged from bankruptcy, or prospectively bankrupt. These included San Diego (the city employees pension fund is "missing" $1 billion dollars, the last two Mayors are in federal prison); Oakland; Stockton, and this week Vallejo is filing bankruptcy. City councils are "feminized" with the same voting majority enacting their values.
The election of 2008 is gender politics. It is anti-white male. Approximately 58% of Republicans are male. Mostly white males. Expect gender politics to dominate the future.
If Obama is elected President, expect the Congress to enact the kinds of femine laws, policies, and budgets we have in California to reflect the "values" and "needs of women".
First, ask any Art History Professor and you'll learn both Galieo and Michelangelo were homosexual.
Second, I agree the Democrat Party is rapidly slipping into the sort of 'Any Port in a Storm' haven for radical political thought. As acolytes of Saul Alinsky, both Clinton and Obama are Socialists at heart. However, in regards to the feminization issue, I believe HRC adheres more to Alinsky's 'In your face' style of confrontation. Such 'masculine' behavior sort of flies in the face of feminization. Obama, however, tends to favor a 'Village or Socialization' method. Such behavior reinforces the view he is, indeed, feminized.
Third, given the current Global Conflict and geopolitical tensions, this country cannot have a 'feminized' President. To do so would seriously undermine our standing as the only Superpower.
Note to self: Vote for Obama.
...he increasingly emphasizes soft power--diplomacy, international law, and cooperation--in the war on terrorism...
Where does he live, Sesame Street?
Cham said...
Note to self: Vote for Obama.
1:46 PM, February 27, 2008
Um why, pray tell?
Feminism, as defined by the feminist (i.e. NOW) movement, is pure Marxism. They firmly believe, in Marx's words, "that all kinds of labour are equal and equivalent." To believe that, you must by necessity dismiss individuality even down to the differences between the sexes.
Another aspect of feminization is a "feel good" culture. This is becoming increasingly prevalent in the workplace; what matters isn't the quality of what you produce, but whether you feel good about your job (and even life in general.)
Obama is tying heavily into this latter concept. He's also a Marxist to the core. The result is long speeches full of empty platitudes. (Eerily similar in style and even content to those given by Castro and Chavez.)
Obama seeks to move American from narrow "self interest"...to a concept of shared interest with others
He seeks nothing of the sort. He proposes massive tax hikes on the wealthy and rebates for the poor who aren't paying any taxes now. This isn't collectivism, this is robbery.
Only to piss off everyone else in here, so someone will talk to her. Any attention is better than no attention.
He seeks nothing of the sort. He proposes massive tax hikes on the wealthy and rebates for the poor who aren't paying any taxes now. This isn't collectivism, this is robbery.
Yet, that kind of sentiment is shared by at least 35-40% of the American people. I wonder if it was higher in the past.
Between this book (which I sure as hell ain't spending good money on, though the Amazon listing seems to give a good idea of the gist of it) and John Lott's excellent "Freedomnomics," which postulates that granting women the vote always leads to bigger government, I'm beginning to believe suffrage was a bad, bad idea.
To be candid, I'm probably never going to read this book. But I'd be interested to know how the authors explain the fact that the ideas they espouse predate suffrage for women much less feminism. Their rhetoric resembles that of American fascists and Progressives in the early 20th century. And while women had participated in these movements, they were almost completely dominated by male leaders. So why should they now be regarded as 'feminized' ideas?
I'm not surprised to see this work compared to that of George 'don't call them taxes call them gumdrops' Lakoff. It seems similarly simplistic.
Of course the real revolution that is occuring in American politics is the ascendence of cat people over dog people.
Karl marx wrote his manifesto, while living with Engels, Now engels father owned a lot of property in the form of mills and the like.
Its not so much he may or may not be feminised, its spin, how he is portrayed to get the vote. we had Blair, to my mind all people who want to be politicians shouldnt be allowed. Theres too much strategy in elections now, a sort of pervasive negative action, its never whats best for the country, its whats best for the party, and to get the power, the parties hire press agents, spin doctors, advisors, to push for the maximum vote, image rather than content.
Then after they are elected the quite frequently forget their promises, and so it begins again.
Respectability for a woman consists in how good a deal she can make for herself in a mate.
If the state takes care of her, everybody is respectable. Or rather falling short is not noticed in the society in which it mattered.
Count me out too Helen. The softer side as majority of the Republic will be to our great detriment, and to our detractors---our enemies---great gain.
My idea of common good is:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Somehow, I doubt that is what either the authors or Obama have in mind.
And so, count me out as well.
Bingo! I was already thinking that this feminization sounded like socialism just as I came to your paragraph expressing your identical conclusion.
They are held by women substantially more than by men but have become the values held by a majority of all voters, including millions of men.
This part sounds right. I'm sure a majority of people are feminized, but that isn't a good thing. I'm not sure I buy the idea that being bipartisan is the same as being feminized. I guess it depends on whether they mean a partisan as someone who has firm convictions and isn't easily swayed by whim.
Seniord: First, ask any Art History Professor and you'll learn both Galieo and Michelangelo were homosexual.
Galileo did have three children out of wedlock with Marina Gamba. Both of his daughters became nuns because of the shame on their family, but his son became legitimized and married.
Cham - I thought you were a Hillary supporter.
Alex - Perhaps because conservatives don't like him.
When I was in college I knew some liberals who would ask people "Do you think we should stop women's suffrage?" They were doing it as a joke to trick any idiots who thought it meant: would you like to stop the suffering of women? Anyways, as appealing as it might be to ban women from voting, consider that Democrats were elected before the 19th Amendment: Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, James Polk, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Grover Cleveland and Woodrow Wilson. In the 1932 election 63% of men voted for FDR compared to 57.5% of women. 35% of men voted for Hoover compared to 41% of women.
I am nearly paleo-libertarian in my politics, but I have taken a shine to Barack Obama. Feminized socialist or whatever, he seems a decent, thoughtful person.
I suspect that a lot of his socialist tendencies won't survive having to deal with real world problems--I do expect that he'll be the next president, and perhaps not a very effective one for a few years.
But Michelle Obama is a nightmare, and I'm surprised her name hasn't yet come up in this comment thread. Because she's the most obvious prima facie evidence of Obama's femi(nazi)fication.
I despise her teenager-ish resentment of this society that has opened doors for her that her own talent never could have managed. Her "first time I've ever been proud of my country" gaffe is just the tip of the iceberg, but it made me look more closely at her.
I skimmed her masters (or was it doctoral?) thesis. Poorly written on a subject that doesn't deserve writing about (whether blacks who go to Ivy League schools start acting whiter--perhaps I've caricatured it slightly, but only slightly). I've looked at some of her other speeches and comments and throughout them runs a consistent thread of mindlessly conventional disdain for the system that has put her in the top 1% of earners.
Worse, she feels aggrieved, oppressed and picked on. I'm not saying she champions the aggrieved, oppressed and picked on, but that she bitches constantly about her own personal "struggles" because of how badly America treats black people. She's Michelle Antoinette.
The fact that the Obama campaign did not reel her in after the stupid "first time proud" comment and make her take it back does not bode well. Any day now, I expect Barack to introduce her as "Sweetie-face, my big 'ol wife." (You young 'uns will have to google to get that reference, and, no, it's not racial.)
Michelle actually could make this a campaign about race if she doesn't learn to control her over-privileged, under-appreciative mouth. And she'll have to learn on her own, because it's obvious everyone in the Obama campaign, including the candidate, is afraid of her.
you think this agenda is socialist? Then you link to Ayn Rand to define socialism.
Uh.... that's like asking Michael Moore to define hard right wing views. While her commentary is fine and dandy, it leads you to sound like a real (ignorant) John Bircher, calling anything to the left of, I dunno, Olympia Snowe, say, "socialist."
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