Follow-up on MIT Stabbing
The Wellesley student who stabbed her boyfriend is being held without bail (Hat Tip/Instapundit):
At least this judge is taking the case seriously.
A judge ordered a Wellesley College student to be held without bail during a dangerousness hearing after she was accused of stabbing her former boyfriend several times as he slept in his MIT dorm room.
Twenty-year-old Anna Tang pleaded not guilty to charges of armed assault with intent to murder and home invasion related to the October 23rd incident.
Prosecutors say Tang gained access to her former boyfriend's dorm room early that morning and plunged a knife into his back as he slept.
At least this judge is taking the case seriously.
posted by Helen at 8:58 AM
48 Comments:
Hey, what's the big deal? It's FUNNY when a woman kills/tries to kill/hurt a man. Just turn on the TV any day, any time of the day, 24 hours a day.
You know, no matter what happens, one thing will be for certain:
This woman will feel no remorse (even if she goes to prison) for what she did, because women do not have the moral compass to learn from mistakes or have remorse or even feel guilt for doing something wrong.
Women work on a completely alien mindset divorced from reality, t or even planet Earth. 'Right' and 'Wrong' are only terms that apply to men and are part of the 'patriarchial' society. There's is nothing more perverse or blacker than the fact that female psycho thinking trumps knowing right from wrong.
Not all men can be trusted, but no woman can ever be trusted for anything ever. Period.
Do any of you realize that DOGS actually have more accountabilty than a woman?
Looks like "reality2007" seems to have a problem with women, otherwise he wouldnt be making such sweepin generalisations.
Now, I am glad that the Judge was smart enough to realise what Ms Tang is up to, and did not buy into the BS I bet the defense attorneys said to try to get he off on bail.
"Looks like "reality2007" seems to have a problem with women, otherwise he wouldnt be making such sweepin generalisations."
I don't like the smell of dogsh*t either. That doesn't mean there is something wrong with 'me.' And like women, I can safely make 'sweeping generalizations' about dogsh*t as well. When you can give me an example of when dogsh*t is attractive, I'll give you an example of when a woman has been accountable for her actions.
By avoiding the fact, you're only admitting that I'm 100% correct.
Reality2007, you're over the line.
"Reality2007, you're over the line."
I'll let you know when I need your approval. (Meanwhile, make sure to hold your breath).
And I suppose stabbing your boyfriend in his sleep 14 times is 'under' the line I suppose?
That is what is wrong with society today- everyone is such a pussy, so worried about 'decorum'- frozen, not doing anything, while the country turns to fecal matter. If you're not going to get angry about women being allowed to kill their husbands/boyfriends, when or what exactly is going make you draw a line in the sand?
Call me angry or 'over the line'- I don't care- just thank God I'm not a pathetic piece of lard like the rest of you.
Reality2007
"stabbing your boyfriend in his sleep 14 times" does not mean "women do not have the moral compass to learn from mistakes or have remorse or even feel guilt for doing something wrong."
What you are describing is a sociopath, not a woman.
My wife and other female family members and friends that I know of show remorse for mistakes and try to make it right.
It IS over the top. Despite what goes on in TV-Land.
ps: Thats like saying that men are all just like that Cho freak who killed all those kids at Virginia Tech.
They are not.
Neither are women.
"What you are describing is a sociopath, not a woman."
..and the difference is..?
"My wife and other female family members and friends that I know of show remorse for mistakes and try to make it right."
Please.
"It IS over the top. Despite what goes on in TV-Land."
Have you ever actually met a real live woman before?
"Thats like saying that men are all just like that Cho freak who killed all those kids at Virginia Tech."
They are not.
Neither are women."
Whoo.. so 'profound.' Too bad that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about remorse and accountability for one's own actions, not the acts themselves. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?
I STILL haven't seen this case mentioned on any feminist blogs.
Gee, what with their effusive pity for victims of dating violence and the Wellesley College connection and all, I figured that they'd be TOTALLY on top of this one.
If the perp were male, that is.
Reality2007, the fact that Dr.Helen, a woman, highlights these cases, and spends a considerable amount of time worrying about the plight of men, is certainly proof that you are wrong that women are somehow alien and incapable of thought.
I am also a women, and I worry about how the world treats my son and husband. I also feel remorse when I do wrong. So, you are mistaken.
Sgt. Ted also described how women in his life feel remorse, and your reply is simply "please". Which shows a certain inability to engage in logical, reasoned debate with someone. You are as bad as the women that say all men are scum and deserve what they get. Exactly as bad, and that attitude is not going to help improve things, because the whiny feminists will see someone like you as proof that they have been right all along.
Good thing the sensible women, like myself, know that not all men are as bitter and hateful as you are. Each person is an individual, and should be taken as such.
As to the Ms. Tang, no, she probably will not ever feel remorse. She will feel as though she is a victim through this entire thing. No one will tell her that she should feel sorry for what she did, and society as a whole (male and female, btw) will not ask for her to repay her debt in any real fashion, even if she does some time. It is sad, and sickening, and a little frightening.
"You are as bad as the women that say all men are scum and deserve what they get."
Men are held accountable for their actions. Women are not held accountable for thier actions.
We don't really know what Ms. Tang is feeling at this time. Nobody has asked her.
"We don't really know what Ms. Tang is feeling at this time. Nobody has asked her."
I don't have to ask because she is female, therefore amoral. She is only sad that she is in trouble.
"A man accidently puts his hand in a fire and curses himself.
A woman accidently puts her hand in a fire and curses the fire."
Mr. Reality? There's a typo in your name. Where it says 2007, we're pretty sure you mean to say 1007.
I hope that helps.
Reality2007 wrote, "Men are held accountable for their actions. Women are not held accountable for thier actions."
While I cannot endorse most of what Reality2007 has written, the sentence quoted above is indisputably true.
After a spell, the unending, daily humiliations get to you.
I expect that such injustice will drive men to anger.
As I said in the original posting, the fact that this is a school matter may mean it will be treated seriously. It is being treated seriously, at least so far.
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Jeff said: " I expect that such injustice will drive men to anger. "
Yes, you are right. We see the anger all around us even now and it is getting worse. If our leaders do not take action, and soon, the resulting male rage will be bad for all.
I've got grand-daughters and grand-sons: I want them all to live free and fair lives. If there is no action to resolve male problems soon, the odds are the grand-daughters will pay a price for the bad behavior of our leaders and the others who today want harm to innocent men.
This is one reason I give Dr. Helen such credit. She takes on the role of leader of her own free will and that role contributes to a better future for all.
How will the resulting male rage be bad for all of us?
"While I cannot endorse most of what Reality2007 has written,"
Oh my, I'm in bunches now! Will I get Jeff's approval again?!? I can only pray on the edge of my seat!
Let give you a clue, you pathetically idiotic germ:
The truth is the truth no matter who states it or how it is stated. Anyone can candy coat fecal matter & that is 99% of the content of even the internet and your attitude reaks of it too.
Please don't feed the troll.
And as I've always said, Tang is often not worth the trouble.
"Please don't feed the troll.
And as I've always said, Tang is often not worth the trouble."
Do you even what you're babbling about? Because no one else here does.
Feel free to jump in any time to join the actual discussion, weirdo.
I believe video is making a double entendre. "Tang" has another meaning. The Bob and Tom Show (radio) has an old skit regarding it.
Aye aye aye. All of us here know that taking on the overstatements, hatred and irrationality of those who have been taught to hate us is pointless. It's like the argument between Batman and the Joker about who made whom. Well, all of us know it but the one who deeply loves hateful, irrational overstatement.
His arguments are so transparently absurd that it's really, really hard to resist correcting them, especially since we also all (but he) know that his blatheration is so counterproductive, so contrary to what everyone else believes, that it must be suspected to be a false flag (Mary?).
So ignore him entirely, I beg you. When he responds, as his ego demands he must, skip over the comment entirely.
Like this:
Re: reality2001
So when a woman vents, we're just supposed sit quietly and nod our head to validate her feelings. When a man does it, he should be, at best, ignored and, at worst, locked up. Right?
To Cham:
As for how male rage will be bad for all of us, go read the "Scum Manifesto", written in 1968 and apparently required reading in Women's Studies classes. Now consider all the men out there who are thinking: Good idea but the wrong group is being tagged for extermination.
"I believe video is making a double entendre. "Tang" has another meaning. The Bob and Tom Show (radio) has an old skit regarding it."
Gee, you know that's really fascinating.. too bad that has nothing to do with the topic.
I think both of you are confusing this blog with 'The Mental Masturbators Who Have Nothing Of Any Substance To Say/ Who Contribute Nothing At All' site.
What exactly is wrong with people like you? You must be what I've heard refered to as 'Message Board Flies.'
The topic here is an attempted murder by a female student with a knife and if she will be held accountable. If you are not going to discuss, go away.
Now I understand peregrine john's comment.
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Dr. Helen:
We had discussed an ignore feature..........
Yes that is the discussion and you add nothing to it.
You are like "Mary", just from the other side. Someone contradicts your sweeping declarations and you can't handle it like an adult.
You want to blow off my experience like an ass, you will treated like an ass.
You sound like an hysterical female with PMS.
Sod off.
"Have you ever actually met a real live woman before?"
Are you really this stupid or is it an act?
The question is rhetorical.
Reality 2007,
I deleted your comment with the derogatory term. Please refrain from using such terms here, it does not add to the conversation and it detracts from any message you are trying to get across.
Seems to me that if one wanted to somehow damage the blog of somebody they considered an enemy, and if said person was not especially smart and had a lot of time on their hands, they might do something like this: Post to enemy's blog "comments" section as one who appears politically aligned with the host, and then behave in the manner of an insane person, including making ridiculous generalizations, flaming all other commenters, etc. A weak and misguided attempt to somehow smear Dr. Smith and her readers, but an interesting effort nonetheless.
Ten bucks says Reality2007 is an angry feminist who's trolling to the best of her decidedly limited abilities. Watch her now attempt to elevate the level of discourse by calling me a "flaming faggot" or some such. Okay, you're right; I cornholed your dad. Never expected the act would result in a conception, but that's a risk one takes when sowing wild oats.
Maybe also explains your apparent obsession with excrement.
Cham
"How will the resulting male rage be bad for all of us?"
For starters, imagine what would happen of half of the men left the American workforce.
Imagine what would happen if the average American male took up Islam.
Imagine what would happen is some smart drug company tapped into the market for male oral contraceptives, and men started using it in droves.
Imagine what would happen if half of America policemen started turning their backs on women who make claims (bogus or otherwise) of rape or domestic violence.
In the ghettos of America, and especially among black men, men have already turned their backs on the family (with significant encouragement from women) and the result is increased gang violence. It's spreading to the Latino community and it will soon spread to white, middle-class America.
The average American man works hard to support his family, even if they're removed by divorce. Imagine what would happen if we all just decided to flip hamburgers or sweep floors and see only to our own, modest needs. Already, young America men are avoiding college and aiming their sights lower. Already, young American men are avoiding marriage.
Can the rest be all that far behind?
"You are like "Mary", just from the other side. Someone contradicts your sweeping declarations and you can't handle it like an adult.
You want to blow off my experience like an ass, you will treated like an ass.
You sound like an hysterical female with PMS."
Correction: You have it backwards. YOU sound like an extremely annoying and petty old lady with below average intelligence, i.e., a Nanny.
Meanwhile women can murder their husbands and go scott free, stab their boyfriends (and probably go scott free) and people like you have their little vaginas in a knot because someone doesn't discuss the issue in a manner suited for the Barney show, and then people wonder why we are in this nightmare to begin with:
People like you. The 'PC' freaks= YOU are the problem, because you're so emasculted, nothing ever gets done. You're a sorry excuse a human, much less a man.
"Seems to me that if one wanted to somehow damage the blog of somebody they considered an enemy..bla, bla, bla, etc.(any and everything but the actual topic)"
You draw SSD don't you?
Like I said RealInsanity2007.
Sod Off
You don't define "manhood" for anyone, much less me. But being a rude jackass is your idea of manhood, I guess.
Nothing PC in my speech, much less my attitude. Not behaving like an ass has nothing to do with PC.
I don't like what the law does to men WRT family law, divorce and child custody, but I sure don't want to be associated with a turd like you.
Grow up dude. You're raving like a loon.
"Grow up dude. You're raving like a loon."
'Dude?' OK, that explains why you're so incredibly stupid and a magina brand Captain Save A Ho.. you're a tootless, mullet headed redneck!
You're opinion, like yourself, doesn't matter here or anywhere. Go snort some more meth and go back to bed with your sister, Jethro.
Cham said: " How will the resulting male rage be bad for all of us? "
Angry people do daft things. Angry people who cannot be listened to do even dafter things.
I'd rather not go through a period wherein men take over Parliament and pass anti-female laws. It could well happen if sufficient force continues to be applied to innocent males.
It is my belief that most "male rage" will manifest itself as non-participation in the institution of marriage. There are many men (a-HEM) not worthy of marriage. Women, too. It IS more give than take, on both sides. Sadly, I believe, because we (the species) see self first and foremost.
As a dad with two daughters, and a son, it concerns me. I have been drilling into my kids to take care of themselves, to depend on no one else, except to be there for each other. And yes, I can poke a million holes in that philosophy myself, without anyone's help.
On the other hand....
My oldest friend never married, and has no intention of doing so. He is pretty successful in life, because he can concentrate on becoming and staying successful. As hobbies, he drives race cars, flies airplanes. He has dated many women. They go places and do things. Skiing, Vegas, the Caribbean. He tells it all up front. No intention of getting hitched. The women never seem to listen. Each woman he dates is the one who can change his mind, you see. When they realize they can't, it almost always ends badly. And he, of course, is always the bad one.
Many holes can be poked in that life style too. He's aware. It's hard to convince him when he comes screaming by you at 200 mph with his hair on fire.
As one who does not believe in reincarnation, I have given much thought to his choices, his life style. He's not mad at anybody, and he's having a blast. It sure pisses some women off, though.
If not for my children, I would have many more regrets than I shoulder now.
"Women versus Men" and U.S. society's double-standards for the two sexes should not be the focus of this particular case. World history is built upon the suffering of women and children; there is no denying this. I do not pity men and it's 99% likely that the people posting about "psycho" women are men with no real intellectual capacity and higher education. The Wellesley College Class of 2007 lost 2 of its original 2003-incoming students due to suicide. That is 2 deaths in 4 years. And now this incident. Let's think "outside the box" for once, to use the colloquial phrase. What should be addressed in the aftermath of this horrible calamity is U.S. society's often-ignored, desperate plight of many emotionally disturbed, elite college students. Wellesley College and many top schools have brushed aside the mental problems of their students for way too long. To maintain a superficial, ideal image is the main objective of most universities today, not the REAL FULL well-being of their students. It is often said that genius is irrational and disturbed. So why aren't educators and U.S. society focusing on making sure that young adults (who are the future it is often quoted) have access to resources if they should so desire them? Why aren't colleges "playing up" their Mental Health Services as much as GPA performance and the so-called diversity of their campuses? Sure, one might think, there are these types of resources available for students. The problem is that U.S. society has yet to remove mental health issues from its long list of "taboo subjects." Many students often ignore potential warning signs of a mental disorder and label what they feel as the "usual college stress" instead. Many are worried about their colleges informing their parents. One can be sure that most young adults are afraid of seeking out REAL help. They instead conform to their colleges' notion of the "perfect student" and let various mental issues fester until it is often too late. This incident is a foreshadowing of a not-too-distant future of a world full of mentally-disturbed, young adults if nothing is done about REALLY IMPROVING mental health on college campuses.
What I meant by the last sentence in my last post is, my kids, who are my life, are all that is salvageable from a quarter century of marriage.
I would not trade the love and the joy they have brought into my life for anything. Even the life style my good friend has always had.
However, had I known (duh) things would have gone as they did, I would have never married. The amount of time and money put into all that a family needs over the years, if invested instead, would - well, one doesn't even need to explain the magic of compound interest.
I don't see marriage as "making one happy". Seems many do. The happiness must be brought to the table by each party. If one really thinks marriage is what will make them happy - if they are not already - their marriage as well as their happiness, is doomed.
Sorry, I know this isn't the thread for this train of thought. Damn the muse that put me on this thought path.
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