Friday, April 27, 2007

Are Bears Just Like People?

Bored at work the other day, I picked up the May 2007 issue of Field & Stream from the waiting room and read the cover story entitled, "Sharpen Your Skills: 50 Things Every Sportsman Should Know." Now, I am not much of a sportsman or an outdoorsman; the last time I camped out, it was in my backyard and family members were taking bets not on how many hours I would last, but how many minutes. Okay, not many, within 30 minutes, I beat it out of a mosquito-infested tent on the pretence that I needed a drink of water and never made it back out. Surmise it to say, I have not "camped out" since--although, lest you think me a total wimp, I did at 19, live in a tent in Yosemite National Park for a month, if that means anything but that's another story.

But enough about me and my limitations, back to the article on being a good outdoorsman. From it, I learned how to camouflage myself with a wine cork, rig a safety harness, claim the best bunk in the camp and tie the knot that fixes all, but most importantly (at least to me) was tip number 46 on how to read a bear's mind.

The tip says that you must first assess the bear's mood when you're planning an exit strategy for a close enounter with a bear. Then you decide whether the bear is a Predatory Bear or a Defensive Bear. A Predatory Bear "isn't intent on rendering you harmless but rather on rendering you digestible. If a bear is aware of your presence and approaches in a nondefensive, unconcerned manner, get very serious. Speak to it in a loud, firm voice. Try to get out of the bear's direction of travel, but do not run. If the animal follows, stop again and make a stand. Shout at the bear and stare at it. Make yourself appear larger--step up on a rock or move uphill. Prepare for a charge."

On the other hand, a Defensive Bear "will appear stressed and unsure of how to act, pacing about and popping its jaw. Talk to it in a very calm voice. Don't throw anything. When it is not moving toward you, move away from it slowly and carefully. A stumble now could provoke a charge. If the bear continues to approach you, stop. Stand your gound and continue talking calmly. If the bear charges, use your spray or gun, then wait until the last possible moment before hitting the dirt."

As I read over the descriptions of the bears and what to do, I could not help but think of a post I wrote a few weeks ago on how to deal with different types of potentially violent people from the book, Surviving Aggressive People. The author, Shawn Smith, divides aggressors into two categories: The Desperate Aggressor and the Expert Aggressor, categories that sound very much like The Defensive Bear and the Predatory Bear.

Perhaps the behavior of violent people is not that dissimilar to that of some of our furry friends--I am not sure whether to find that comforting or troubling.

35 Comments:

Blogger Peregrine John said...

I vote for "troubling," though I am very unlikely to call it surprising.

In related news, you must tell us that Other Story some time!

10:24 AM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger Helen said...

Peregrine John--you said,

"In related news, you must tell us that Other Story some time!"

I don't think my readers are ready for that story yet, maybe sometime....

10:27 AM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger David Foster said...

While out west this summer, I saw a pamphlet with what sounds like the same advice for dealing with an aggressive animal.

Which I netted out as "think about what a 'progressive' would do, and do the opposite."

10:38 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If the bear charges, use your spray or gun, then wait until the last possible moment before hitting the dirt."

Huh? Where's the blame President Bush and try to talk it out with the bear option?????

10:40 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speak to it in a loud, firm voice. Try to get out of the bear's direction of travel, but do not run. If the animal follows, stop again and make a stand. Shout at the bear and stare at it. Make yourself appear larger--step up on a rock or move uphill. Prepare for a charge.

I prefer the tactic of drawing the .44 Magnum S&W 629 revolver I carry with me when I do deep wilderness hiking. I've never had such a bear encounter, but when hiking in bear country, I think it's best to be prepared. My understanding is you're more likely to be attacked by a larger member of the feline persuasion than a bear, though. I've heard of cats going after kids in tow. When you go into wild areas, you become part of the food chain :) Most people don't think about that.

10:52 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um.... maybe it would be best for you to just stay out of the woods.

Your backyard is plenty wilderness for you, I suspect.

11:09 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huh? Where's the blame President Bush and try to talk it out with the bear option?????

Comes right after the "pull out the gun and shoot anything that moves while missing the bear" theory.

All those poor dead bunnies and birds who had to die needlessly because our leader's a bad shot.

11:11 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most people don't think about that.

Most hunters do, and they're not too afraid really. You should get out of your liberal circles more.

11:12 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"comforting or troubling"? Neither. It's just a fact of life.

Every observable item doesn't have to have an emotion applied to it. I'd never get anything do if I tried to psycho-analyze everything that passes my awareness screen.

The original bear story is awesome, and does make for a great crib sheet when deciding how to react to an aggressive person. A great story for management training classes, police training, et cetera.

11:21 AM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger DADvocate said...

My daughter tells me I'm a grumpy old bear sometimes.

I've had several encounters with bears in the Smoky Mountains. I find them more predictable than hominoids. I like the 44 magnum option when my kids are with me. A lady was killed and partially eaten by a bear in the Smokies a few years ago.

11:45 AM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger Serket said...

I am not sure whether to find that comforting or troubling.

I pick comforting, because if you are good at approaching people in various moods, perhaps it can save your life against a bear or other predator.

11:57 AM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good point, serket.

I'm not good enough yet at recognizing the moods, in others and sometimes not catching myself from an emotional outburst.

I'll have to change my "neither" to "troubling", with the knowledge I'm improving.

I think "disconcerting" is a slightly better descriptor, for me. With maturity/experience/confidence, I hope to transition to "comforting".

12:38 PM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger Helen said...

Dadvocate,

I remember that case with the woman who was eaten by the bear here, that was awful. What I am amazed by whenever I go to the Smokies is how dumb people are when it comes to dealing with bears. I recently saw a bunch of people circling a bear and calling to it in the mountains. Me, I stay away from them --they are nothing to mess with.

12:45 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are bears just like people? No, but people are just like chimpanzees. Just look at Congress.

(Sorry - cheap shot.)

12:48 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A bear by the side of the Blue Ridge Parkway can screw up traffic for miles in both directions because so many people stop their cars & get out to look at the bear. I've seen people follow retreating animals into the woods.

12:56 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most hunters do, and they're not too afraid really. You should get out of your liberal circles more.

Most people aren't hunters. And how exactly do you know I move in liberal circles?

1:21 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bears, pigs, and humans all belong to the greater community of omnivores. We likes our meat and vegetables, we do. In a state of nature, we're used to dealing with objections on the part of the meat. Depending on circumstances, it can be appropriate for us to be peaceable, or violent.

And depending on size, we have to be ready to deal with others that consider us to be meat. Humans are fortunate - we're on the large end of the scale - but a bear is even larger, and so is a wild boar.

Since bears evolved to face the same kinds of situations we did, it's only natural that we'd be more able to understand their minds than, say, the average sheep or lion. It's reasonable to assume overlap of ways-of-dealing with aggression.

1:38 PM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger knox said...

What I am amazed by whenever I go to the Smokies is how dumb people are when it comes to dealing with bears

I've witnessed this myself. It really is mind-boggling.

(Dr. Helen, believe it or not, about 2 years ago I was running with a friend on the bike trail and we saw a black bear right near where the trail hits Tyson park. We couldn't believe it, but we ran into a guy walking who said he saw it too. Reported it to the police, but as far as we know they never spotted it.)

3:25 PM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger knox said...

P.S. we ran as fast as we could without even thinking... even if I'd known the Bear Rules at the time, I don't know that I'd have had the presence of mind to stop and think about what to do; we just instinctively took off.

3:33 PM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger Helen said...

Knoxwhirled,

A black bear in Tyson Park? I've seen some weird stuff in Tyson Park, but no bears as of yet. I wonder where it came from?

3:58 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sebastian-
If most people don't hunt where you're at -- and are so dumb about the food chain as you suspect, chances are you're living in liberal lala land. Even non-hunters in a hunting culture respect the wild.

4:09 PM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger knox said...

I've seen some weird stuff in Tyson Park, but no bears as of yet. I wonder where it came from?

Yeah, weird doesn't even begin cover it. Anyway, I can only guess the bear had been someone's pet at one time?

6:48 PM, April 27, 2007  
Blogger Grim said...

I know a bit about bears. Even got between a mother and her cub once, which they say you shouldn't do. I was out taking a run in the mountains at the time, and didn't realize it until it was done.

Bears are not like people who are hurtful to each other, because people have social instincts toward each other to balance the competitive/violent ones. When you find a person who is preying on other people, you might be justified in saying that this is a bad person.

Bears are more like people who are hunting other species for food. If you see an animal, have the right tools with which to kill it, intend to kill it, and are confident you can kill it, you will approach it in a relaxed manner and shoot/stab it dead. A grizzly weighs around 800 pounds and can run 30+ miles per hour; so figure we're talking about an animal that weighs less than 1/4 what you weigh, and is slower than you too.

Now, if you encounter an animal that you didn't expect to encounter, and it seems dangerous, you might be scared and defensive. This, too, is like the bear.

That's all there really is to say about it, except one thing. Grizzlies in particular are highly intelligent, and capable of deciding you are a threat and taking steps to eliminate that threat. Just because it seems scared doesn't mean it won't kill you.

10:22 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If most people don't hunt where you're at -- and are so dumb about the food chain as you suspect, chances are you're living in liberal lala land. Even non-hunters in a hunting culture respect the wild.

I don't think whether folks hunts or not is a good test for "liberal lala land". As it is, Pennsylvania issues a million hunting licenses a year, which is second only to Texas, and highest on a per capita basis. So quite a large number of folks around here hunt. We're also generally a blue state.

11:39 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The late Timothy Treadwell is the subject of the Werner Herzog documentary, Grizzly Man.

Treadwell spent a dozen summers with bears in Katmai park, Alaska. A review of his video tapes shows that in all that time he formed not one clue about bears' true nature. He got himself and a companion killed by a bear.

1:13 AM, April 28, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Minnesota has a huge number of hunters and outdoorsman.

It is also known for very high taxation rate, no fault auto insurance, Walter Mondale (senator, and the only state that went blue in Reagan's 1984 landslide), and other 'liberal' traits. Its also got a libertarian streak, e.g. Ventura's governor election.

1:13 PM, April 28, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is best my advice on how best to deal with bears, lions, tigers, crocodiles, big sharks & insanely violent people:

Find another place to hang out.

You can call me the Bear Whisperer if you like, but it seems to me that the reason certain animals become man-eaters is the same reason that people become serial killers.

People are really, really easy to kill. Not a happy thought, but an accurate one. We're slow. We don't have natural armor. Our strength-to-weight ratio is pitiful by animal kingdom standards.

It is worth noting that predatory animals tend to chomp on women, children & the elderly when they realize that they are REALLY slow, small & physically weak. And unlike animals, these strange hairless apes often delude themselves intoi thinking they're not physically weak & separate themselves from the bulls of the herd, frequently by means of supermarket tabloids and step aerobics classes. Oh, and Stairmasters.

This is where they are most vulnerable.

I'm amazed that my gym doesn't have man-eaters lining up outside with napkins around their necks.

Granted, our high encephalization quotients & opposable thumbs make us a bit more dangerous, but only when we travel in packs. Otherwise, no matter how tough we think ourselves to be, we're all just snacks on the rack.

Humans: You can't eat just one!

(Please disregard any implications that my philosophy regarding human fraility & edibility are in any way similar to Hannibal Lecter's. First of all, I have the wrong degree--Humanities, not Psychology.

Second, I'm a terrible cook. I suppose I could harvest your liver if I was up to it but I wouldn't know what to do with the fava beans & I can't afford a nice Chianti. If I can't boil it, stick it in the crock pot or microwave it, it's fairly safe from me. Just thought y'all might like to know. ;) )

"What do you see, Clarice? What do you see?"

"Bears."

7:36 PM, April 28, 2007  
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