A 15-year-old accused of fatally shooting her classmate was upset because the two had recently stopped talking and told police she brought a gun to school because she "wanted her to feel pain like me," according to an affidavit.
Violent girls often attack other girls over relationship issues or boys. They, just like boys, need to learn the boundaries of anger. Unfortunately, in our "you go girl culture," that probably won't happen.
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ReplyDeleteI wonder if she'll be punished as harshly as Mary Winkler.
ReplyDeleteThrough responsibilities I won't disclose (other than saying I'm not a lawyer or a cop), I'm aware of a 22 year old man who was sentenced to two years in prison because, 4 years before, when he was 18, investigators found a nude photo of a 16 year old girl on his computer and nailed him for child pornography with intent to distribute. Keep in mind, he was 18 she was 16. What is most troubling to me is that he got more than triple Mary Winkler's sentence (he never touched a child, yet she murdered someone).
They'll probably make some excuse for this girl. If it weren't so tragic how it affects real people, I'd find it amusing how feminists argue, not only with straight faces, but with a self-righteous air of indignation, that women (except conservative women, who are not really women) are completely superior and virtually infallible, unless of course they do something wrong then it's not their fault.
Very, very sad.
Trust,
ReplyDeleteYes, in the minds of some, women who kill are mentally ill, and men, they are animals. This is actually anti-feminist. Men are responsible for their actions, women are not. They are attempting to try this girl as an adult, according to the article, however.
Zah? Am I missing something? The article doesn't mention a boy involved at all.
ReplyDeleteIt'll be this mat, and you can "jump" to "conclusions."
Mary Winkler? I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteA 15 year old black girl just shot and killed a white girl in a Florida school. This isn't a minister's wife, mother of 3 kids in Tennessee who just shot her supposedly abusive husband.
Expect the book to be thrown at her. What is unusual about this is that a female shot another female. If this had been the case between 2 black males at a school the story certainly wouldn't have made the national news. I'm not sure it would have made the local news.
blucas!
ReplyDeleteNot sure what your comment means but my point is that everyone thinks boys are the only school shooters which is not true. Society thinks that girls are sugar, spice and everything nice and do not teach them how to modulate anger. Girls have fewer role models or information about how to use anger constructively, and they, like boys, can act out in ways that are destructive and need to be taught by adults how to modulate anger. In other words, if our society thinks that some boys need to learn anger management and that all girls can skip it because they are not violent, they are mistaken.
Cham,
Girl on girl violence is not so unusual, girls often target other girls as victims when they are violent, usually because they are angry about a relationship over a boy or some other relationship problem.
Girl on girl violence is not so unusual, I will agree with you there. But a girl shooting another girl over her hurt feelings is. Unlike the many many instances of boys killing boys, men and anyone else over hurt feelings.
ReplyDeleteTeens who have not learned to process anger coupled with easy access to guns are a disaster waiting to happen.
Well, this ties in nicely with the princess thread. Want to bet the killer had more than her share of self-esteem work? Don't diss the princess! Imagine equating the pain of a broken friendship with the pain of death by gunshot.
ReplyDeleteThese sorts of stories are useful to me as a parent - I talk to my kids about "situations" like this. Sad to say that I am never at a loss for things to discuss.
cham --
ReplyDelete"Teens who have not learned to process anger coupled with easy access to guns are a disaster waiting to happen."
Or knife (number one murder instrument) or axe or club or poison or.....
It has always been the case that people who can't deal with emotional stress lash outward or inward, creating a large or small disaster.
Oligonicella,
ReplyDeleteYou are quite right about use of other weapons. Women and girls tend to use knives most often, mainly because they are "up close and personal." Guns are much more distancing.
I wrote an article in 2000 with Sandra Thomas, a professor, entitled " Violent and nonviolent girls: contrasting perceptions of anger experiences, school, and relationships." In our research (link to the abstract is below) we found that 48% of the girls tagged as violent by us had brought knives to school. Of course, a knife isn't much of a weapon unless used, but it does seem to often be the weapon of choice for girls who become violent.
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a713834040~db=all
helen --
ReplyDelete"Of course, a knife isn't much of a weapon unless used, but it does seem to often be the weapon of choice for girls who become violent."
Neither is a plumber's wrench unless you attack someone with it. My point was that cham was sneaking in the anti-gun lobby talk.
I am not 100% sure of where I saw it. That article seemed to suggest that this killer shot the victim, because supposedly the victim had rejected the killers lesbian sexual advances.
ReplyDelete@Helen: "Yes, in the minds of some, women who kill are mentally ill, and men, they are animals. This is actually anti-feminist. Men are responsible for their actions, women are not. They are attempting to try this girl as an adult, according to the article, however."
ReplyDeleteI think it is insulting to women that they make so many excuses for them.
I do think cham makes a good point that since she killed another girl, there may not be as much blaming. If she killed a man or boyfriend, such as Winkler, there would be many making excuses.
Whether or not the punishment fits the crime will rest with the judge, which unfortunately gives little room for comfort until after the sentence.
"Girl on girl violence is not so unusual, I will agree with you there. But a girl shooting another girl over her hurt feelings is."
ReplyDeleteTrue.
What girls usually do when they become that angry is manipulate some lonely, insecure boy into doing it for them. Or make a false accusation and use their privileged social status to escape the usual serious consequences. Or start up a whispering campaign that eventually drives the other girl into self-destructive acts.
Speaking of which. . . .
"Unlike the many many instances of boys killing boys, men and anyone else over hurt feelings."
Except, of course, for how there are more instances of male suicide alone than there are instances of murder by both genders of both genders.
See CDC-NCIPC WISQARS Fatal Injuries: Leading Causes of Death Reports, source of the following --
Total MALE suicides versus ALL homicides in the usa, 1999-2005:
173,833 to 124,813, or approximately 1.4 to 1.0 -- i.e., 7 male suicides for every 5 homicides by both genders, of both genders, in round numbers.
So the majority of deliberate, intentional murders of both genders in this country are in fact actually SUICIDES by ONE GENDER EXCLUSIVELY -- men and boys.
"Teens who have not learned to process anger coupled with easy access to guns are a disaster waiting to happen."
No, they're a tragedy waiting to happen. A suicidal tragedy, and one overwhelmingly targeting men and boys.
And what's worse, the ignorant bigotry of comments like yours tends to increase the occurrence of such tragedies. When people in general read your femelitist, anti-male crap, it makes them think it's therefore okay for them to hold and express such beliefs as well, and when men and boys in particular do so, they also integrate it and thus become that much more likely to kill themselves because of it.
You've been shown here, and over at PJM -- over and over and over again -- that you have a distinct and serious gender bias problem and need to inform yourself and reform your behavior. And now you've had it explicitly pointed out to you, with a direct example of how your ignorant sexist bigotry contributes to male harm.
Hopefully this time it will stick and do some good.
It is either a time to fight or to sleep. Neither will succeed most likely, but is that ever the point? Good fortunes in choosing.
ReplyDeleteSomewhere at ScienceBlogs in the last few days, I read of a study on television viewing and violence. One interesting point was brought up in the comments -- that girls may be becoming more outwardly violent because there are more violent female 'role models' in TV and movie roles.
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